Post cycle therapy (pct) after first cycle

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pault989

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PCT after first cycle

Hi All,

Just completed my first (not very well researched) cycle. I did 4 weeks of dbols and then 4 weeks (500 ml a week) of sust 250.

SO as per m not very well researched comment, i did last injection on Monday and have only just started to read about PCT... So from what I've taken what would people recomend for PCT???

Should also note from U.K...

Many thanks.
 
Big mistake this cycle, You should of done research!!! 4 weeks will just shut your natty test down and now you will have to recover, this should of been done for 12 weeks!

500 ml? jeez how did that all fit in you, lol jokes, you mean 500mg
 
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This is a horrible cycle bro, you def should have done research. Do your homework next time so you can expect better results.
 
Decided I'm not ganna stop with the sust and continue for 8 more weeks then get on the clomid after that...

I'm then ganna take a few months off and get some hard training and my next cycle I have planned is as follows...

Weeks 1 - 12 500 mg of Sust 250
Weeks 7 - 12 50 mg Winstrol every other day
Weeks 13 - 15 Nothing
Weeks 16 - 19 50mg Clomid per day

Does that look a bit better?
 
Drop the winni tha is harsh shit and no good for someone who is not going to contest. Why sust? What your goals? IMO you should go test E or Test C for 12 weeks 500mgs weeks, split into pins of 250mgs monday and thursday. Depend on your goals go with D-bol for 4 weeks between 30 to 50 mgs ed.
Also did you know what is an AI? you need one on cycle to prevent side like gyno exces water retention etc. You can get Adex, Aromasin or letro. Read about this and find the best for you, we all diffrent so we all react diffrent too.

post cycle therapy (pct) should look like this
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
this is a basic and well use post cycle therapy (pct) for most of us. If you can get some HCG get it and you can do 500iu twice a week during cycle or do a blast 10 before start (SERM) post cycle therapy (pct) 500ius ED. '
Diet needs to be spot on, no food no good gains. I sugeest you like my boy hothead to do your homework and reaserch more about it.
Hope this help and give you a better guidence for your read and future cycle.

Pikiki
 
pikiki said:
Drop the winni tha is harsh shit and no good for someone who is not going to contest. Why sust? What your goals? IMO you should go test E or Test C for 12 weeks 500mgs weeks, split into pins of 250mgs monday and thursday. Depend on your goals go with D-bol for 4 weeks between 30 to 50 mgs ed.
Also did you know what is an AI? you need one on cycle to prevent side like gyno exces water retention etc. You can get Adex, Aromasin or letro. Read about this and find the best for you, we all diffrent so we all react diffrent too.

post cycle therapy (pct) should look like this
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
this is a basic and well use post cycle therapy (pct) for most of us. If you can get some HCG get it and you can do 500iu twice a week during cycle or do a blast 10 before start (SERM) post cycle therapy (pct) 500ius ED. '
Diet needs to be spot on, no food no good gains. I sugeest you like my boy hothead to do your homework and reaserch more about it.
Hope this help and give you a better guidence for your read and future cycle.

Pikiki
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That's identical to what i'm doing, 2nd week now and the dbol is really taking its tole, iv'e gained 8lb!
 
Your new plan sounds legit but don't forget a dose of 10 mg-20mg a day of nolv for estro to stay down and avoid gyno amd maybe throw some in with clomid at post cycle therapy (pct) for a more aggresive post cycle therapy (pct). Good job bro enjoy
 
irish_monstah84 said:
Your new plan sounds legit but don't forget a dose of 10 mg-20mg a day of nolv for estro to stay down and avoid gyno amd maybe throw some in with clomid at post cycle therapy (pct) for a more aggresive post cycle therapy (pct). Good job bro enjoy
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Sorry bro but I can be agree of what yo saying "LEGIT" no post cycle therapy (pct) no Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and winni? So you telling this guy to do a cycle that is missing important parts on it and then to do Winni. I think he needs to read more then he can put a better cycle together. If that how you run your cycles you need to do more reaserch to, just saying...
 
pikiki said:
Drop the winni tha is harsh shit and no good for someone who is not going to contest. Why sust? What your goals? IMO you should go test E or Test C for 12 weeks 500mgs weeks, split into pins of 250mgs monday and thursday. Depend on your goals go with D-bol for 4 weeks between 30 to 50 mgs ed.
Also did you know what is an AI? you need one on cycle to prevent side like gyno exces water retention etc. You can get Adex, Aromasin or letro. Read about this and find the best for you, we all diffrent so we all react diffrent too.

PCT should look like this
clomid 50/50/50/50
nolva 40/40/20/20
this is a basic and well use PCT for most of us. If you can get some HCG get it and you can do 500iu twice a week during cycle or do a blast 10 before start (SERM) PCT 500ius ED. '
Diet needs to be spot on, no food no good gains. I sugeest you like my boy hothead to do your homework and reaserch more about it.
Hope this help and give you a better guidence for your read and future cycle.

Pikiki
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I went for wini as I read that it doesnt aromatise? (am I wrong?) and why is the winstol so harsh? I heard it's good and I would be looking to compete at some point next year as I've already got quite size from natty training, just looking to get that extra bit bigger and ripped...

Also went for sust as it was recomended to me... could easily get hold of test e though if you think that would be better suited for a beginer?

Thanks for all the input guys it's reallly appreeciated and I feel i'm learning a lot!
 
also what you suggest I do now? I mean i was planning on doing the sust to 8 more weeks then clomid for pct... anything else you think I should be doing?!!
 
pault989 said:
I went for wini as I read that it doesnt aromatise? (am I wrong?) and why is the winstol so harsh? I heard it's good and I would be looking to compete at some point next year as I've already got quite size from natty training, just looking to get that extra bit bigger and ripped...

Also went for Sustanon (sust) as it was recomended to me... could easily get hold of test e though if you think that would be better suited for a beginer?

Thanks for all the input guys it's reallly appreeciated and I feel i'm learning a lot!
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pault989 said:
also what you suggest I do now? I mean i was planning on doing the Sustanon (sust) to 8 more weeks then clomid for pct... anything else you think I should be doing?!!
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With the winni if your going to to do it do it pre-comp that will be very close to go up on stage, winni don`t aromatize your right BUT dry your joint, fuck up your lipids and once your out of it all the water goes back to you so best use is pre-comp. I don`t like Sustanon (sust) cuase their short esther in frequntly inject, I like more now that I know you rgoals for this cycle test E or C and some anavar. Reason Anavar (var) will you give some dry gains and more define look and with Anavar (var) as diffrrent from other orals you rkeep most of the gains, NO WATER retention with Anavar (var) bascilly. As far as this current and sorry to tell you this way horrible cycle your on keep 8 weeks more wait around 14-21 days start PCT and go like this
clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10

Hopefully this help and bro read more if you can learn you r way and find best way for you we all diffrent so you can figured out the best way for you to run a cycle AI`s PCT`s etc.

Pikiki
 
So Test E and Anavar is prob the best way to go for the next better researched cycle...

I can easily get some Arimadex would you suggest I start taking this for the next 8 weeks? And what would be the side affects of stopping after only 4 weeks of Sustanon (sust) as I've been advised that this would not be a good idea?

I was very very naive in this first experiment, although saying that I have noticed some good gains... hopefully get even better next time around!!
 
yeah if you continue with the Sustanon (sust) start taking adex if seing some sides like puff nipples or sorenes or too much water retention, I take .5mg eod as a prevent measure at least that works for me. Test E and anavar will be a good cycle for what you want IMO. If you stop the Sustanon (sust) now I suggest you to do a blood work and check on test levels then PCT. But if you got it on hand keep going and get some nolva with the clomid for a better PCT. The gains you seing so far is from D-bol most likely. Test gains usually come after 5 to 7 weeks for most ppl. Do the reads in here is plenty of info on the anabolics forum look for the stickys good and very easy to read info there.

Pikiki
 
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