Post cycle therapy (pct) vs Cruising. Help a young guy out!

[ZeusHimself]

PCT vs Cruising. Help a young guy out!

Hey fellas. 21 years old. 6ft and will come out of this cycle around 225lbs and 10%.

On my first AAS cycle currently in week 7.

My cycle is:

Dbol week 1-4 @50mg/day
Test C week 1-15 @ 600mg/week
May throw in anavar week 11-16 @60mg have not decided
Making awesome gains, PR's every single session and feel great every day.

Also running adex eod @ 0.5mg

Originally I had planned on going into post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after my last injection for 4 weeks:
Nolva: 40/40/20/10
Clomid: 50/50


Now I am considering cruising as I really do not want to come off. Was thinking 200mg a week for 4 months with the last 6 weeks doing anavar to tighten up before blasting again. My only major concern is fertility. I am only 21 and do not want kids for at least 5 years but I fear that being on for that long would make it impossible or very unlikely to be fertile.

If I do cruise it will be 200mg a week for 4 months and the last 6 weeks with anavar. Blood work will be done every 4 months.

I have had some people tell me that cruising is fine and I will be much happier and others say that post cycle therapy (pct) is the way to go. But I do not want to lose these hard earned gains and feel like a normal person again. I can not imagine 4 months without any gains.

Help me decide guys!

 

[Punisher64]

Personal opinion is you're still too young to cruise. At 21 your natty test levels would be about equal to your cruise levels which means you're shutting yourself down for no reason. My advice is to do your post cycle therapy (pct) when your cycle is over and let your body reset. You can always do another cycle down the road.

 

[ZeusHimself]

Personal opinion is you're still too young to cruise. At 21 your natty test levels would be about equal to your cruise levels which means you're shutting yourself down for no reason. My advice is to do your post cycle therapy (pct) when your cycle is over and let your body reset. You can always do another cycle down the road.

Thanks man! Should I be worried about losing a lot of mass on post cycle therapy (pct)? I plan to eat about 200 or 300 above maintenance through post cycle therapy (pct) then +500 after until about 2 months after post cycle therapy (pct) then run a cut up until my next cycle.

 

[riprockwell]

Honestly bro, as addictive as this game can be, I would suggest you get off and post cycle therapy (pct). You are young at 21 years old and you don't want to have to rely on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in order to make yourself feel better for the next half a century. Additionally, the longer you are on, the harder it can be to recover. Everyone is different in this situation and everyone responds differently. I would post cycle therapy (pct) and then get some blood work after post cycle therapy (pct) and see how you have recovered. This is your first rodeo so you want to do things the right way even though it can be addictive. Health comes first in this game in my opinion.

 

[jhammond]

I was looking for average gains, and instead have left my self sleepless and on constant worry - dont think i was ready for this or educated enough...I've been taking testosterone Cypionate for the length of 3 weeks now..I would inject 1ml every sunday, so ive had 3mls, over a 3 week period up to date. I hate it I can barely release my load - i dont think test c, is for me or juice for that matter im too paranoid so will it be okay to come to a complete stop now ?
thanks guys

 

[ZeusHimself]

Honestly bro, as addictive as this game can be, I would suggest you get off and post cycle therapy (pct). You are young at 21 years old and you don't want to have to rely on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) in order to make yourself feel better for the next half a century. Additionally, the longer you are on, the harder it can be to recover. Everyone is different in this situation and everyone responds differently. I would post cycle therapy (pct) and then get some blood work after post cycle therapy (pct) and see how you have recovered. This is your first rodeo so you want to do things the right way even though it can be addictive. Health comes first in this game in my opinion.

For sure man! Seems like the smart thing to do.. Just afraid of losing a lot of mass. Guess I will see how it goes and can hopefully hang on to as much as possible!

 

[ZeusHimself]

I was looking for average gains, and instead have left my self sleepless and on constant worry - dont think i was ready for this or educated enough...I've been taking testosterone Cypionate for the length of 3 weeks now..I would inject 1ml every sunday, so ive had 3mls, over a 3 week period up to date. I hate it I can barely release my load - i dont think test c, is for me or juice for that matter im too paranoid so will it be okay to come to a complete stop now ?
thanks guys

Still better post cycle therapy (pct).. but ya you can stop. Wait 2 weeks before starting post cycle therapy (pct) though. Hopefully you have some on hand as you should before even thinking about starting a cycle.

 

[riprockwell]

For sure man! Seems like the smart thing to do.. Just afraid of losing a lot of mass. Guess I will see how it goes and can hopefully hang on to as much as possible!

I completely understand what you are saying but you have to look at other things in life. I see this all too much with younger guys and things change as you progressively get older. I mean, will you care as much as you do now about your body when you are 60 years old?? Probably not. In fact you will have different priorities at that time. Trust me, I know they can be addictive but if you know what you are doing with diet and training and you are getting in those calories, you should be able to keep a lot of your gains. You might not feel as pumped but you can rest assured knowing you gave your body a break that it deserves. And again, the only way to know if you have recovered is by getting blood work done. Good luck.

 

[ZeusHimself]

I completely understand what you are saying but you have to look at other things in life. I see this all too much with younger guys and things change as you progressively get older. I mean, will you care as much as you do now about your body when you are 60 years old?? Probably not. In fact you will have different priorities at that time. Trust me, I know they can be addictive but if you know what you are doing with diet and training and you are getting in those calories, you should be able to keep a lot of your gains. You might not feel as pumped but you can rest assured knowing you gave your body a break that it deserves. And again, the only way to know if you have recovered is by getting blood work done. Good luck.

Thanks for the input man. I love this game so much. The whole lifestyle of it, seeing the progress, etc. But at 60 idk. Good point. I could see myself training hard through my 50's though

On my hdrol cycle I got up to about 210 and after post cycle therapy (pct) was 207 so only lost 3lbs. What I did was eat 200-300 above maintenance. Is that a good approach?

 

[riprockwell]

Thanks for the input man. I love this game so much. The whole lifestyle of it, seeing the progress, etc. But at 60 idk. Good point. I could see myself training hard through my 50's though

On my hdrol cycle I got up to about 210 and after post cycle therapy (pct) was 207 so only lost 3lbs. What I did was eat 200-300 above maintenance. Is that a good approach?

Yeah that is a good approach. You know your body better than anyone so you will just have to experiment. This lifestyle is all about trial and error. Like I said, it is very addictive but you are really young at the moment. Enjoy your life while you are young and try not to mess up your endocrine system. A lot of guys think testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is the greatest thing ever and that is because they haven't been doing it for years like I have. It gets old quick and if my body could produce things naturally, I wouldn't even be on it. You know the saying, "In order to be old and wise, you first have to be young and dumb." lol.

 

[jhammond]

Still better post cycle therapy (pct).. but ya you can stop. Wait 2 weeks before starting post cycle therapy (pct) though. Hopefully you have some on hand as you should before even thinking about starting a cycle.

What post cycle therapy (pct) do you reccomend? And what exactly will it be doing for me ? Ive read so much on post cycle therapy (pct) and im confused as hell about what it does or how to take it!

Thanks bro!

 

[ZeusHimself]

What PCT do you reccomend? And what exactly will it be doing for me ? Ive read so much on PCT and im confused as hell about what it does or how to take it!

Thanks bro!

Look at my original post above man..

Nolva and clomid will do. google purity solutions.. only lab I have dealt with for serms. good stuff. It is oral solution.

 

[Fish44]

Yeah dont cruise.

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Wouldn't recommend cruising at your age..