Pretty solid 20 week cycle?

[SonOfZeu$]

I ran tren ace 3x already. I just want to try about a 20 week cycle and to see how far I can get with this cycle.

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
Week 1-6 NPP 400mg/week
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg/week

Week 13-20 Test Prop 320mg/week
Week 10-20 Anavar 80mg/ed
Week 08-18 Tren ace 100mg/eod

Week 1-18 HCG 500ius/week
Week 18-20 HCG 1000ius/week
Week 1-20 Letro .30 e4d
Week 8-19 Prami .25 ed

PCT
Week 21-26 Clomid 50/50/50/50/50
Week 21-26 tamox 40/40/20/20/20

 

[Megatron28]

Don't believe in using an AI?

Why 3 weeks off after last pin before start PCT?

 

[tbonexl]

You post some weird cycles guy!

 

[clman8585]

If you are finishing with short ester you only wait 1 week max before you start pct

 

[Matt0071]

I ran tren ace 3x already. I just want to try about a 20 week cycle and to see how far I can get with this cycle.

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
Week 1-6 NPP 400mg/week
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg/week

Week 13-20 Test Prop 320mg/week
Week 10-20 Anavar 80mg/ed
Week 08-18 Tren ace 100mg/week

Week 1-18 HCG 500ius/week
Week 18-20 HCG 1000ius/week

Week 21-26 Clomid 50/50/50/50/50
Week 21-26 tamox 40/40/20/20/20

Why make your cycle confusing? Z you got short esters, long esters, droping this compound, adding another compound ect, keep it simple and youll fair out better in the long run
I dont understand why people exspecially the ones venturing off using tren want to use other compounds, tren alone with a low dose of test and a good diet will get u jacked as fuck, in return more money for food, and more money in the long run, its no wonder why people get pissed off spending thousands of dollars on one cycle and dont see the results they were looking for
5 viles of tren a
1 vile of t400
AI
Is all I need, and food, under 500 bones for a 10 to 12 week blast

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Don't believe in using an AI?

Why 3 weeks off after last pin before start PCT?

my bad, I do use an AI and prami, forgot to add that in

 

[SonOfZeu$]

You post some weird cycles guy!

lol, last cycle was a simple 12 weaker,

week 1-12 test prop 250mg/week
Week 1-10 var 70mg/ed
Week 1-10 Tren ace 300mg/week

 

[SonOfZeu$]

If you are finishing with short ester you only wait 1 week max before you start pct

I wait 3 days, Sorry if it seems the way i wrote it that i wait a week

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Why make your cycle confusing? Z you got short esters, long esters, droping this compound, adding another compound ect, keep it simple and youll fair out better in the long run
I dont understand why people exspecially the ones venturing off using tren want to use other compounds, tren alone with a low dose of test and a good diet will get u jacked as fuck, in return more money for food, and more money in the long run, its no wonder why people get pissed off spending thousands of dollars on one cycle and dont see the results they were looking for
5 viles of tren a
1 vile of t400
AI
Is all I need, and food, under 500 bones for a 10 to 12 week blast

Your right in saying that with long and short esters, just don't feel like pinning eod for 20 weeks.

What I see in this cycle is that when we tend to stop making gains after about 12 weeks, Tren in my view would be a great way to keep pushing and getting more results.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
Week 1-6 NPP 400mg/week
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg/week

Week 13-18 Test E 325mg/week ..... then finish off the last two weeks with test prop.
Week 10-20 Anavar 80mg/ed
Week 08-18 Tren ace 100mg/week

Week 1-18 HCG 500ius/week
Week 18-20 HCG 1000ius/week
Week 1-20 Letro .30 e4d
Week 8-19 Prami .25 ed

Week 21-26 Clomid 50/50/50/50/50
Week 21-26 tamox 40/40/20/20/20

**Can anyone give me any insight on NPP with dbol. Maybe just Dbol alone as a kick starter will be enough.

I've always had a great time with var and tren.

 

[308power]

I would stick with just the dbol and save a few bucks. I'm sure you will enjoy the well being and almost instant size!

 

[Norsegod]

Npp should be run longer than 6 weeks, but it's not needed here. Idk what to tell you. You seem dead set on this over the top cycle. You should split it into two cycles. Good luck either way, bro

 

[XELFLEC]

Npp should be run longer than 6 weeks, but it's not needed here. Idk what to tell you. You seem dead set on this over the top cycle. You should split it into two cycles. Good luck either way, bro

Yeah I'm with Norse your set and we're beating a dead horse.


Bulk with the first set for 8-12 weeks
Cut with the second set 8-12 weeks and add mast.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Npp should be run longer than 6 weeks, but it's not needed here. Idk what to tell you. You seem dead set on this over the top cycle. You should split it into two cycles. Good luck either way, bro

As 308 stated... I think NPP might not be worth it. Im already running two 19-nor... As I have no experience with NPP. I will say that I will drop the NPP.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg/week

Week 13-18 Test E 325mg/week ..... then finish off the last two weeks with test prop.
Week 10-20 Anavar 80mg/ed
Week 08-18 Tren ace 100mg/eod

Longest cycle I've ran is 14 weeks. Do you guys think that 20 weeks is just a overkill????

 

[XELFLEC]

Week 1-4 Dbol 40mg/ed
Week 1-12 Test E 600mg/week

Week 13-18 Test E 325mg/week ..... then finish off the last two weeks with test prop.
Week 10-20 Anavar 80mg/ed
Week 08-18 Tren ace 100mg/eod

Longest cycle I've ran is 14 weeks. Do you guys think that 20 weeks is just a overkill????

I thought I was complicated. What are your goals?

 

[snowpatrol123]

1-18 TestE 600/wk
8-20 TrenA 525/wk

1-4 dbol whatever/day
15-20 var whatever/day

21-25 PCT

Doesn't have to be so complicated

 

[SonOfZeu$]

I thought I was complicated. What are your goals?

Be at a solid 200lbs at 5-6%. Just get ripped again. I did it with this cycle

And pct, hcg, prami, Ai was included too

Week 1-10 test prop 300mg/week
Week 1-10 var 80mg ed
Week 1-8 tren ace 400mg/week

 

[SonOfZeu$]

1-18 TestE 600/wk
8-20 TrenA 525/wk

1-4 dbol whatever/day
15-20 var whatever/day

21-25 PCT

Doesn't have to be so complicated

I have to run test longer than tren for at least 2 weeks, running var for 5 weeks I think is pointless in my experience.

Isn't it better to run tren higher than test. Tren is already 5x more stronger than test 5:1 ratio

 

[snowpatrol123]

Why do you have to run test longer than tren? Especially with long vs short esters?

Isn't it better to run tren higher than test

"Better" isn't a great qualifier in this situation - there's reasoning behind tren > test and vice versa. Not going to get into it here.

My point is; keep it simple - you don't need the insane cycle plan you listed in your OP.

The one I mentioned, or a modified version would do you just fine when paired with a diet tailored to your goals.