pro-hormones: why do you guys bother with this.shit??

I dont recommend them. In my opinion they will ultimately lead you to the real deal anyway...the offer lesser benefit with, in many cases, higher risks. Just isnt worth it in my opinion.
 
Didnt read responses but talk about a stupid fucking post...OP is either ignorant or uninformed...has to be one of the dumbest posts I have read in a while.

Prohormones = legal steroids.

People take steroids to achieve goals...ignoring all the facts that they are legal, cheap, and easy to obtain, every guy I know on the other board I am on mixes designer steroids and AAS. It is all about achieving goals...there is no AAS that will provide a large quantity of dry mass gains...so if that is your goal you would use something like superdrol.

Not to mention the fact that most "prohormones" aren't, and are already active steroids...

Everyone is harping about the toxicity of DS...I have never heard of anyone dying by using DS. Andreas Munzer wasn't using prohormones and he died...you are an idiot if you think AAS are not just as hepatoxic. Yes there are some compounds that seem to be more toxic than others but it is part of the game...M1T isnt a prohormone and it is fucking toxic as hell.
 
I know a high level powerlifter that runs designer steroids just as frequently and in conjunction (as always) with AAS orals or injectibles. It is about goals not whether a steroid is labeled a designer steroid or certain AAS
 
Didnt read responses but talk about a stupid fucking post...OP is either ignorant or uninformed...has to be one of the dumbest posts I have read in a while.

Prohormones = legal steroids.

People take steroids to achieve goals...ignoring all the facts that they are legal, cheap, and easy to obtain, every guy I know on the other board I am on mixes designer steroids and AAS. It is all about achieving goals...there is no AAS that will provide a large quantity of dry mass gains...so if that is your goal you would use something like superdrol.

Not to mention the fact that most "prohormones" aren't, and are already active steroids...

Everyone is harping about the toxicity of DS...I have never heard of anyone dying by using DS. Andreas Munzer wasn't using prohormones and he died...you are an idiot if you think AAS are not just as hepatoxic. Yes there are some compounds that seem to be more toxic than others but it is part of the game...M1T isnt a prohormone and it is fucking toxic as hell.
EXACTLY.

You guys just look down on this shit because everybody else does. Oral steroids like dbol/drol/var don't get this kind of shit, you just get people saying not to take it for too long because it's harsh on your liver.

Most of these things are on the same level as oral AAS. I guess they're just not badass enough for most of you guys because they're legal, even though they are every bit as potent.
 
EXACTLY.

You guys just look down on this shit because everybody else does. Oral steroids like dbol/drol/var don't get this kind of shit, you just get people saying not to take it for too long because it's harsh on your liver.

Most of these things are on the same level as oral AAS. I guess they're just not badass enough for most of you guys because they're legal, even though they are every bit as potent.

I dont disagree per se. However you have to look at the fact that since 4ad (real 4ad) went away there hasnt been a proper test base PH or DS. So lets look at it - no more effective than steroids - in most cases less. Sure you have your superdrol or trenazone but that is an exception. No test base. Just as prone to adverse sides - perhaps more so with the absence of a proper test base. So basically they are legal. Thats all they have going for them and slowly but surely that is changing. Might be time to jump off the sinking ship
Also just as many morons think they are safer cause they are legal as guys that think they arent as potent because they are legal.
 
.there is no AAS that will provide a large quantity of dry mass gains...so if that is your goal you would use something like superdrol--

dude you are a moron,you obviously never ran a tren/mast stack with some slin. and superdrol that shit is so toxic and gives you more
bloat than anadrol. and if this is a stupid fucking post as you mention, than why write such a stupid fucking reply.
but i give you credit at least you wrote novice under your name.
 
For me, availability. I'm taking a PH because it's easy to get. I have no idea where I would go to obtain real gear, if I did I would be taking that instead.
 
Most definitely based on availability. Im sure if you could go down to the corner store and buy test and deca, the pro hormone market would not exist.
 
You should never take any anabolic substance without injecting testosterone also. With that being said. A lot of the "prohormones" on the market today are actual steroids. Superdrol and epistane are two that come to mind. These were actually created years ago, but didn't have a need to be marketed until now. We all know, that in the not too distant future, these substances will also be banned. I think Superdrol was already banned last year. There are risks with all steroids.
 
For me, availability. I'm taking a PH because it's easy to get. I have no idea where I would go to obtain real gear, if I did I would be taking that instead.

totally hear you. I took steroids and love the results from them, but my guy moved so i am stuck with PHs till i find a new source. PH are way less effective. most of them only convert to 20 percent test of the total you take. i would kill for real gear.
 
Its availability. If i could get my hands on real gear or just test i would do that. but i cant and settle for the next best thing. I agree the risks are high but there are some precautions informed users can take and people have there mind set on GAINS. Thats just my thought process on it tho.
This website makes it laughably easy to get your hands on gear.
 
If newbies like myself have never touched gear how would we know how to obtain them? I have done a lot of research on how to use them but what good is it if I can't get my hands on them? I know we aren't allowed to ask for a source and I won't but can you recommend what I shall look for in the website to find out how to obtain gear.
 
Its availability. If i could get my hands on real gear or just test i would do that. but i cant and settle for the next best thing. I agree the risks are high but there are some precautions informed users can take and people have there mind set on GAINS. Thats just my thought process on it tho.

I signed up to this website yesterday.
ordered some this morning. it's not that
hard man.
 
God damn, we have all heard this arguement. Its basically trickles down to availability and legality. And who gives a shit. If someone whats to waste their money what do you care?
 
reason I'm looking at it is risk and availability. I'm in the military and spend a lot of my time traveling to diff countries. Bringing a stack of pins even on a c130 is a pain. A few pills is easy. Not to mention if I do somehow get tested I didn't just waste years of my life I can argue a legal substance and get away.
 
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