Probably gonna cycle. 21 years old

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meyers462

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Alright well I'm 21 I bought gear about year and a half ago. It expires in February of 2016 and I spent $400 on everything. I got 2 bottles of test cyp. 400 tabs of dbol. Arimidex. And novadex.

Stats:
Age:21
Height: 5'9
Weight:146.5
Bench: (1RM) 235
Squat: (1RM) 250
Deadlift: (1RM) 325
Bodyfat%: 10-12% bf

History: I have read for a long time about gear. I still lookin for guidance. I have used prohormones twice before no sides besides higher aggression. 2nd time I used phs was on a cut and I stacked 2 phs that time.

So now do I use my cycle now and do a very nice bulk or piss my money away and not compete until I'm in my 30s..I would really like to compete and win in the NPC. I've had bloods done a lot of time and they all come back good. My body responded wlvery good to phs to so I'm sure they would with real gear.

My 1st ph cycle I gained 35 lbs and kept 28 lbs after pct
 
the moment you stick that needle in your ass, you are committing to the possibility of having to do that for the rest of your life.

i post this on here time and time again. don't do it. and i'm not one of those guys on here who are 40+ talking down to a young kid. i'm your age i'm 22.
i started right after my 18th birthday. one cycle lead to another one, and another one, and another one. then after that fourth or 5th cycle, my test just never came back up to what it was. my test was around 400. which is like half of what it should be at our age.

i regret ever taking steroids because now, until the day i die, i need to stick a needle in my ass every week in order to feel normal.

just keep eating a lot and training hard, maybe fuck with some stimulants like clen or t3 to get shredded, some peptides like GHRP 2/6, IGF lr3, all that bullshit. but i really really do not recommend you to fuck with your HPTA. just my $0.02

oh... and what the fuck do you need 400 tabs of dbol for????!!!
 
At your stats you need to working on eating. Especially if you want to compete. Your not going to step on stage in 12 weeks no matter what you take and be competitive. Gotta get the 3 basics dialed first. Diet, training and rest. My chic weighs more then you do and is shorter then you too. She ain't fat either bud...
 
You should cycle this.

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tbonexl said:
At your stats you need to working on eating. Especially if you want to compete. Your not going to step on stage in 12 weeks no matter what you take and be competitive. Gotta get the 3 basics dialed first. Diet, training and rest. My chic weighs more then you do and is shorter then you too. She ain't fat either bud...
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Got a new girlfriend Tbone? Nice!
 
tbonexl said:
At your stats you need to working on eating. Especially if you want to compete. Your not going to step on stage in 12 weeks no matter what you take and be competitive. Gotta get the 3 basics dialed first. Diet, training and rest. My chic weighs more then you do and is shorter then you too. She ain't fat either bud...
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Yeah i know but i do eat bro. I was 140 at the end of my cut now I'm 146. At the peak of my bulk I was 185. I don't wanna be like the powerlifters weighing 275 fat as shit. Goal is bodybuild so I bulk until I feel I'm lookin fat then cut down til I can see abs pretty good.
 
meyers462 said:
Yeah i know but i do eat bro. I was 140 at the end of my cut now I'm 146. At the peak of my bulk I was 185. I don't wanna be like the powerlifters weighing 275 fat as shit. Goal is bodybuild so I bulk until I feel I'm lookin fat then cut down til I can see abs pretty good.
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You didn't gain 28lbs from a PH cycle. Not unless you're Ethiopian skinny and learned how to eat at the same time.

275lbs would put me at about 2% body fat, so easy on generalizations. :p

Listen to the guys, you're just not ready for the plunge - which would be a bigger waste of your money as you have to have the three concepts tbone mentioned down first to see great results.
 
halfwit said:
You didn't gain 28lbs from a PH cycle. Not unless you're Ethiopian skinny and learned how to eat at the same time.

275lbs would put me at about 2% body fat, so easy on generalizations. :p

Listen to the guys, you're just not ready for the plunge - which would be a bigger waste of your money as you have to have the three concepts tbone mentioned down first to see great results.
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I did gain 28 lbs bro I was 150 when I took em. Also I do know how to eat I gain about 1 lbs a week. 3j was also my dietitian and he taught me a lot.

Also if your 275 2% bf why aren't you Mr. Olympia??
 
meyers462 said:
I did gain 28 lbs bro I was 150 when I took em. Also I do know how to eat I gain about 1 lbs a week. 3j was also my dietitian and he taught me a lot.

Also if your 275 2% bf why aren't you Mr. Olympia??
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he was sarcastically making fun of you for saying that people that are 275 are "fat as shit".
HW isn't fat.

you're 5'9 and he's 6'7, massive height difference between you.
 
Onk said:
he was sarcastically making fun of you for saying that people that are 275 are "fat as shit".
HW isn't fat.

you're 5'9 and he's 6'7, massive height difference between you.
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I said powerlifters first of all. And most of em are fat. I know a few guys who are powerlifter and they not close to looking aesthetic at all. All I'm saying is I wanna compete in NPC and win. So if I don't use gear how long is that gonna take? I been lifting 3 years, started off at 110 lbs 12% bf. I'm now 149.5 10-12% bf. My max weight I hit so far was 185. Cuz everyone in NPC is on gear
 
Think about the dedication ur about to do I was 21 when I did my first pin now im I trt for life I did pct perfect every time had one kid while on but at 21 u have a good 4 years on natty ahead of u with diet my freind
 
meyers462 said:
I said powerlifters first of all. And most of em are fat. I know a few guys who are powerlifter and they not close to looking aesthetic at all. All I'm saying is I wanna compete in NPC and win. So if I don't use gear how long is that gonna take? I been lifting 3 years, started off at 110 lbs 12% bf. I'm now 149.5 10-12% bf. My max weight I hit so far was 185. Cuz everyone in NPC is on gear
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I was a powerlifter at your age, and sat between 9 and 12 percent body fat. Football wouldn't let me keep any, and I put all those calories to use. Yes, many guys that have the passion for only moving mountains of weight tend to be heavier, but I'd never generalize.

28lbs of lean mass from a PH cycle is absolute horseshit. I'm sorry, but if you really think you gained that's much muscle, you're in for some SERIOUS disappointment in the future. I'm happy as a clam if I can gain 10lbs and keep it after MONTHS on cycle.

But, you'll see soon enough. :)

Oh, and I'm one of the guys that posts frequently in the TRT section. I'll be seeing you there soon if you plan on jumping into this lifestyle. :)
 
If you gained 28lbs with a ph cycle, where's all your gains? I dont care how much gear you take you will not gain without food. Impossible! Your not going to win an npc anytime soon until you get the 3 basics down. Diet, training and rest. No amount of gear can compensate for any one of those. Biggest factor is time. It simply takes time. Your not going to blow up in a couple months into a contending competitor out of nowhere. Just a fact. Set small goals and hit em bud. Right now, you need to focus on food...
 
tbonexl said:
If you gained 28lbs with a ph cycle, where's all your gains? I dont care how much gear you take you will not gain without food. Impossible! Your not going to win an npc anytime soon until you get the 3 basics down. Diet, training and rest. No amount of gear can compensate for any one of those. Biggest factor is time. It simply takes time. Your not going to blow up in a couple months into a contending competitor out of nowhere. Just a fact. Set small goals and hit em bud. Right now, you need to focus on food...
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My gains still got em. I did cut/bulk. Also I had a surgery back in April.

But anyway. I know diet is the most important. Idk why you all acting like I don't know that. I'm not stupid bro. Like I said above, 3j was my dietitian and he taught me a lot. I gain 1 lbs a week. Once I feel like I'm getting fat (abs almost not visible) I cut. Went from 110-149.5 lean since November 2012
 
meyers462 said:
My gains still got em. I did cut/bulk. Also I had a surgery back in April.

But anyway. I know diet is the most important. Idk why you all acting like I don't know that. I'm not stupid bro. Like I said above, 3j was my dietitian and he taught me a lot. I gain 1 lbs a week. Once I feel like I'm getting fat (abs almost not visible) I cut. Went from 110-149.5 lean since November 2012
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You ran a 35 week PH cycle?
 
Megatron28 said:
Your first post said you gained 35 pounds. Post #16 said you gained one pound per week. I did the math.
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Yeah back in 2014 I did that cycle around January. I was 185 after that bulk and sitting around 18-19 bf So after my pct and getting bloods done i obviously would cut.

And anyone can gain a lbs a week. If I was going to cycle I'd be eating 4000 cals putting on 2-3 lbs a week
 
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