Progesterone,estrogen,Receptor cross over

Needtogetaas

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OK so let brake things down into simple terms first before i go any more into detail about "receptor cross over"

First thing is first lets talk about hormones and hormone receptors and how they work. The most simple way I have seen it explained is this. Hormones are keys and your receptors are like locks. I have also seen it explained " hormones are cars and the receptors are parking lots".

But for this one we will use Keys and locks. Keep this in mind through out this thread/post. Keys and locks.

What happens is a hormone is ether placed in the body (by an out side source) or it is produced with in the body. This hormone we will call a "key". The hormone then sets out to find a "lock" that it can fit into,turn, and sequentially open up the
components inside. To go one step more and make it a little more simple I will explain it like this.

Imagine your receptors as little treasure chest. Inside the chest is a set of instructions. This set of instructions can be a number of things. It can be directions to another chest or a task that must now be carried out. With out something to open the chest the instructions can never be carried out or the next chest found and opened. Following me ?

Lets go into this even more. Some hormones are more like AAAAAH hmmm "dummy keys" will call them. They will find a "lock" and set them self into the "Lock hole" but then thats it. They never turn the key and open up whats inside. HMMMM interesting.



So It works like this
1. Key fits a lock. AKA a hormone found a lock and set its self into it. but did nothing
(for the most part.)

2. Key was not a dummy key and when it set its self into the lock it turned and opened up the chest letting out the instructions inside that will now be carried out.



Ok now the fun part. The "master keys" We will call them. Or "Muti function keys"

A subject not much talked about on any of the steroid forums or even in many articles I have come across is the fact that. In respect to anabolic steroids (out side source of hormones) most of them have all been explained as just "lock" and "key" . However the truth is pro hormones,disginer steroids and steroids all have "Multi function" and some even "Master key" functions.

You will see many people making threads about how they got gyno well on a cycle of Winstrol (winny) only or masterone only. Or on anadrol or beastdrol only.


we can see there is a lot of people shooting in the dark at a target they can not see. When some one can not explain something there reaction is OOOO you must not have real Winstrol (winny) or ya abomb cause estrogen sides, or yaaa I heard aboms will raise your progesterone.

Only when you look more into things you will find that Winstrol (winny) Is a dht derivatives, and can not can convert to estrogen and medical studies have also proven it will not cause a raise in progesterone ether. In fact it will cause a decrease in both.

So then what?

AAAHHH In walks receptor cross over aka "Multi function" "master key"

"Mutli function" Or "master key"<-- Simple terms

Or as I like to call it
"receptor cross over"


What happens is The body recognizes the androgen/hormone but to the body it may also look a bit like another hormone. When the drug flows through the body enough times (through taking it over and over through out a cycle). Some times the body will except it into a lock it was not meant for.

Ever find a lock and think to yourself gee I wonder if this key will open it. It sure does look like it will even though it was not meant for it. Stick the key in and omg it worked!!!

Steroids (most of them) are "Multi function" and every so often they cause "receptor cross over" Every so often and some times more in different people they are seen by the body as so close to the key that fits that the body allows it to fit in and open the lock letting out the instructions inside.

In the case of Anadrol/and beastdrol to a degree it has chemical structure that is just close enough to progesterone that some times the body will allow it into the lock and allow it to turn the key.



This of course is only a theory and is open for debate and discussion. I know others have ideas and i welcome them. Thank you
 
^^^ This is the truth, unforunately one's genes can cause some problems while on cycle. Few people realize that gyno is a genetic deposition.
 
Need2,

Are you the same guy from elite fitness from back in the day?

I could be my man but there has been hundred of different needto's that have come through ef and other sites. But if you are talking about "needtogetaas" or "needtogetas"
Then yes that must be me my man..

That I know of only my full forum name needtogetaas or needtogetas has only been plagiarized on bb.com, Af, and then some other tiny no name boards. Any of the big boards and yes that is always me. I got by the name Needtogetaas or needtogetmuscle on all forums now.

If you know me from way way back in the day. Say pre 2005 then You know me as the drunken stuttering dumb ass who could hardly put a coherent sentence together let alone talk about basic cycles.

However I was in a downward spiral at that time in my life I will not deny that at all. I had just gotten out of the Army where I had picked up a nasty drinking habit consisting of a minimum of a 12 pack a night and 30 racks in the week ends. I was still recovering from the coma I had been in and I was living my life in a constant state of inebriation.

I am now a recovering alcoholic and maybe drink once every couple of months if my wife allows it lol.. I have also recovered from my injuries and feel pretty darn good about life.

My friend if you knew me on the net before the way I am now I am sorry lol. I am sorry if I ever spit any bullshit your way or did/said anything dumb to you. That was a much different time in my life though and I would rather put all of it behind me. I think 4 years is long enough time for a man to have redeemed him self. For anyone who can not except the way things are now and wants to live in the past well then that is on them. I have no time for living in the past though and I refuse to do so..

But hey, thanks for remembering me man. At least I made a big enough impression of some kind for you to have remembered me lol. I have always been aaah Charismatic I guess I will call it.

Peace.
 
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