Simpletest
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As much as everyone loves steroids nutrition plays a very important role , so I would like to know when it comes to carbs what time should someone stop taking them
proper time to eat carbs before bed
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I always hear don't eat carbs after 7pm blah blah . But honestly as long as ur carbs are where they need to be per day it's fine. Think about ppl who workout before bed they would be eating carbs before bed in their post workout. If not recovery would suffer. Now if I workout early my dinner is lower in carbs but just because I've pretty much already hit my carbs by them and I'll be sedentary in the evening so no need to carb up. But keep in mind carbs are very important possible more than protein. Carbs keep your energy up and prevent muscle breakfonw. IMO carbs are more important for mass gain as long as protein is where it needs to be. When wanting to add mass in crease carbs not prtein. Clean carbs of course
Carbs are NOT more important than protein. Protein is an essential nutrient whereas carbs are not. You will die without protein but can live perfectly healthy without carbs. Is say that makes protein much more important than carbs.
If possible, please explain what you mean by a clean carb bc everyone's definition of clean is so vastly different it's fruitless trying to classify any type of food as clean/dirty.
Well what I mean is once you meet your protein requirment, more is not beneficial. Adding in the carbs are gonna fuel your workouts, keep glycogen full and keep the muscle full. If you deplete glycogen you will burn amino acids for fuel which isn't ideal. So what I'm saying is get your protein needs in. Then if wanting to up cals to gain add in carbs.
Clean carbs would be no high fructose corn syrup , minimally processed and low glycemic.
Clean carbs would be no high fructose corn syrup , minimally processed and low glycemic.
BeastMaster
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its ok to eat carbs before bed but epecially if dieting, be careful of how many carbs. Dont want an insulin spike before bed for numerous reasons.
3J
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Carbs right before bed will lower natural gh production overnight.. that's a no no...
unless you are taking in carbs because its post workout (and right before bed) you should not eat carbs in the last meal of the day..
you have plenty of time to get all the carbs in you need throughout the day.. why mess with your gh production??
unless you are taking in carbs because its post workout (and right before bed) you should not eat carbs in the last meal of the day..
you have plenty of time to get all the carbs in you need throughout the day.. why mess with your gh production??
Protein spikes insulin....why not worry about protein? An insulin response to food is not something to worry about unless you're diabetic or running insulin exogenously. Spiking insulin before bed or before training, or after, or in the am, or before your morning poop lol will not create noticeable differences in body composition.
You're right we don't know what their intake was but they were isocaloric diets with equal amounts of cals and macros. The only difference between the two groups was the timing of the nutrients.
My point as to the secretion of GH is that there is very little clinical significance to any nutrient-mediated dips and spikes in GH. The cause and effect is there as proved by the studies you mention but at the end of the day it means very little, if at all, to body composition.
3J
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you just said lower gh = very little to body composition..
an elevation in gh, no matter how little.. should be something to strive for
casperthefriendly
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Somebody gave me the videos from Ben Pakulski's "Hypertrophy MAX". He said he eats more carbs in his last meal of the day than he does in any other meal. It's pretty hard to argue with his results, but then again he's most likely taking GH...
I said the difference in GH caused by carbs at night means little to body composition, not just lower.
Let me out it in a different perspective, would you take HGH exogenously if you were pinning 1iu of it? Who here on the forum pins just 1iu of GH? Now a male in his 20s-30s will typically make around
.5-1.5iu of GH per day. How much GH inhibition is caused by eating carbs at night now? .01iu, .1iu, .2iu? I don't see the purpose, or benefits, of not eating carbs at night (if one wants to) when it might save a fraction of an amount nobody would even use during a GH cycle or a fraction of natural production? What kind of differences would we expect to see if I saved the .1iu by not eating carbs at night? That's the way I'm looking at the situation.
anzel
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This is a great thread! I'm learning more here than any of these countless articles all over the web that just grind out the same old mantra about eating carbs...
Now I eat carbs but yeah, I cut back to minimal as the day gets later. Heres the thing I always question when I look at my plate. Sitting there eating spagehti squash with meat sauce instead of pasta . I am still eating carbs! Carbs in the squash and in the sauce. Or having a nice piece of grilled steak or chix and some steames brocc with some butter on it.....theres carbs in the broccoli.
What Im getting at is, if you really want to make this no carbs at night deal work you should just eat meat. No salad,veggies, bbq sauce, nothing. Otherwise you still are eating carbs.
I understand that your body metabolizes carbs from a white potato a little different than a piece of broccoli but is it to any great effect???
What I was led to believe is that carbs at night get converted to sugar and then to fat. Thats why I stopped eating starchy carbs at night. That is what we are talking about right? Starchy carbs not fiborous carbs?
Now I eat carbs but yeah, I cut back to minimal as the day gets later. Heres the thing I always question when I look at my plate. Sitting there eating spagehti squash with meat sauce instead of pasta . I am still eating carbs! Carbs in the squash and in the sauce. Or having a nice piece of grilled steak or chix and some steames brocc with some butter on it.....theres carbs in the broccoli.
What Im getting at is, if you really want to make this no carbs at night deal work you should just eat meat. No salad,veggies, bbq sauce, nothing. Otherwise you still are eating carbs.
I understand that your body metabolizes carbs from a white potato a little different than a piece of broccoli but is it to any great effect???
What I was led to believe is that carbs at night get converted to sugar and then to fat. Thats why I stopped eating starchy carbs at night. That is what we are talking about right? Starchy carbs not fiborous carbs?
The total energy balance for the day will determine whether you store fat or not, it has nothing to do with starchy carbs at night or carbs at night or even carbs at all for that matter.
JimiThing
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Think about this..is it even for the day? Why is 24 hrs so magical? Thats just an arbitrary measurement so we can track...even day prob doesnt matter...
Overall I agree with this..however when it comes to competitive level BB nutritional manipulation for show prep and show becomes a diff story...
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