Proper use of ephedrine?

Golden_Muscle

Hybrid Athlete
When do you take Ephedrine? Is this correct? Dosage varries from person to person.........

25mg before meal in the afternoon.
25-50mg 1 hour before workout.
25mg before meal in the evening.


I eat 5-6 meals per day, but im not going to take ephedrine before every single meal.

I want to use it between cycles to lose some bodyfat, and help keep muscle while dieting, and also for the strength boost you get from it.

Thanks.
 
Golden_Muscle said:
When do you take Ephedrine? Is this correct? Dosage varries from person to person.........

25mg before meal in the afternoon.
25-50mg 1 hour before workout.
25mg before meal in the evening.


I eat 5-6 meals per day, but im not going to take ephedrine before every single meal.

I want to use it between cycles to lose some bodyfat, and help keep muscle while dieting, and also for the strength boost you get from it.

Thanks.

it all depends my friend. if you wanna take it to supress appetite, take it throughout the day about 1 hour before a meal. do nopt take it too late b/c it will most likely cuse sleep problems.

do not take 50mg before a workout. for one, it could make you feel real sick and wanna amke u stop lifting. and two, it can be a little bad for your body if your using that much and doing a stressful workout
 
I'd start out with 25 mg & 200 mg aspirin in the morning and that's it for the day. You might even find it hard sleeping the first few nights with that dose.
 
If fat loss is your goal, add caffeine - it makes a major difference.
Use 200 mg of caffeine for 20 mg of ephederine.


The thermogenic properties of ephedrine/methylxanthine mixtures: human studies.

Dulloo AG, Miller DS.

The thermogenic effect of an over-the-counter preparation containing 22 mg ephedrine, 30 mg caffeine and 50 mg theophylline was investigated in human volunteers with a predisposition to obesity and also in the lean. The ephedrine/methylxanthines mixture was twice as effective as ephedrine alone in increasing the fasting metabolic rate of both subject groups, and it normalized the reduced thermogenic response to a 1.25-MJ meal observed in those predisposed to obesity. Measurements of 24-h energy expenditure in a respirometer indicate that the mixture had no effect on the daily metabolic rate of the lean, but was effective in causing a significant 8 percent increase in the 24-h energy expenditure of those subjects predisposed to obesity. These studies indicate that relatively mild doses of dietary methylxanthines in combination with ephedrine can raise daily energy expenditure of those predisposed to obesity, mainly by correcting their defective thermogenic response to food. Such ephedrine/methylxanthine preparations could be useful as aids in the treatment of obesity.


The effect and safety of an ephedrine/caffeine compound compared to ephedrine, caffeine and placebo in obese subjects on an energy restricted diet. A double blind trial.

Astrup A, Breum L, Toubro S, Hein P, Quaade F.

Research Department of Human Nutrition, Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Frederiksberg, Copenhagen, Denmark.

The sympathomimetic agent ephedrine has potent thermogenic and anti-obesity properties in rodents. The effect is markedly enhanced by caffeine, while caffeine given alone has no effect. This study was undertaken to find out if a similar weight reducing synergism between ephedrine and caffeine is present in obese patients. In a randomized, placebo-controlled, double blind study, 180 obese patients were treated by diet (4.2 MJ/day) and either an ephedrine/caffeine combination (20mg/200mg), ephedrine (20 mg), caffeine (200 mg) or placebo three times a day for 24 weeks. Withdrawals were distributed equally in the four groups, and 141 patients completed the trial. Mean weight losses was significantly greater with the combination than with placebo from week 8 to week 24 (ephedrine/caffeine, 16.6 +/- 6.8 kg vs. placebo, 13.2 +/- 6.6 kg (mean +/- s.d.), P = 0.0015). Weight loss in both the ephedrine and the caffeine groups was similar to that of the placebo group. Side effects (tremor, insomnia and dizziness) were transient and after eight weeks of treatment they had reached placebo levels. Systolic and diastolic blood pressure fell similarly in all four groups. We conclude, that in analogy with animal studies, the ephedrine/caffeine combination is effective, while caffeine and ephedrine separately are ineffective for the treatment of human obesity.


Add green tea for even better results:


Green tea and thermogenesis: interactions between catechin-polyphenols, caffeine and sympathetic activity.

Dulloo AG, Seydoux J, Girardier L, Chantre P, Vandermander J.

Institute of Physiology, University of Fribourg, Fribourg, Switzerland. abdul.dulloo@unifr.ch

The thermogenic effect of tea is generally attributed to its caffeine content. We report here that a green tea extract stimulates brown adipose tissue thermogenesis to an extent which is much greater than can be attributed to its caffeine content per se, and that its thermogenic properties could reside primarily in an interaction between its high content in catechin-polyphenols and caffeine with sympathetically released noradrenaline (NA). Since catechin-polyphenols are known to be capable of inhibiting catechol-O-methyl-transferase (the enzyme that degrades NA), and caffeine to inhibit trancellular phosphodiesterases (enzymes that break down NA-induced cAMP), it is proposed that the green tea extract, via its catechin-polyphenols and caffeine, is effective in stimulating thermogenesis by relieving inhibition at different control points along the NA-cAMP axis. Such a synergistic interaction between catechin-polyphenols and caffeine to augment and prolong sympathetic stimulation of thermogenesis could be of value in assisting the management of obesity. International Journal of Obesity (2000) 24, 252-258
 
Didn't a baseball player - a pitcher I believe- just die from taking ephedrine? He was only 23 years old.
 
Juice Authority said:
Didn't a baseball player - a pitcher I believe- just die from taking ephedrine? He was only 23 years old.

Yes....there are contradictions ; heart problems and high blood pressure being two of them, both of which he had.
 
Golden_Muscle said:
I want to use it between cycles to lose some bodyfat, and help keep muscle while dieting, and also for the strength boost you get from it.Thanks.

I would suggest NYC's for this purpose over ephedrine.
 
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Juice Authority said:
I would suggest NYC's for this purpose over ephedrine.

i did hear of a study saying that ephedrine converts in the body to norephedrine as well as stay the same.

not too sure on how norephedrine affects the CNS and muscle strength. do you have first hand account cause i havent used my NYC yet?
 
Having used both my preference is NYC. Reason being, NYC contains Yohimbine HCL. Yohimbine HCL effectively blocks all three alpha receptor categories, which are predominantly located in the fat cells of the upper thighs, lower glutes and obliques. Check out the label of your ‘favorite’ fat-burner. If it doesn’t say Yohimbine HCL, you are not targeting your alpha receptors and you won’t get the results you are actually looking for. It's also helps boost your libido!
 
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StoneColdNTO said:
I'd start out with 25 mg & 200 mg aspirin in the morning and that's it for the day. You might even find it hard sleeping the first few nights with that dose.

Will that be enough to help keep muscle while dieting? That is the main reason I want it for. Also for a bit of a strength increase.
 
Golden_Muscle said:
Will that be enough to help keep muscle while dieting? That is the main reason I want it for. Also for a bit of a strength increase.

Sorry bro, I'm not sure, I only ever used it for fat burning and staying awake during long drives.

But I think it's a good place to start, see how you feel, you can always up the dosage.
 
Juice Authority said:
Having used both my preference is NYC. Reason being, NYC contains Yohimbine HCL. Yohimbine HCL effectively blocks all three alpha receptor categories, which are predominantly located in the fat cells of the upper thighs, lower glutes and obliques. Check out the label of your ‘favorite’ fat-burner. If it doesn’t say Yohimbine HCL, you are not targeting your alpha receptors and you won’t get the results you are actually looking for. It's also helps boost your libido!

yup. yohimbine hcl is believed to help boost libido by increasing the output of the neurotransmitter norepinephrine and also is thought to stimulate the pelvic nerve ganglia.
 
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