Pros and Cons For A First Cycle, Am I Thinking Too Much Or Am I Doing The Right Thing

[TheHenchman]

I have been researching AS on and off for a year and almost everyday for the last 3months. I am 24 (will be 25 this summer) and am seriously considering running a Test E and DBOL cycle with Nolvadex + Clomid as PCT. Ever since I started researching AS relentlessly I have also worked extremely hard on my Diet, Training and Rest and have actually put on a lot of muscle in the last 3months, I do realize that I could still put on more mass naturally but I really want to do a cycle soon as I want to get to my goals quicker.

After days and nights of research and talking to many different people who use AS I feel like I really need a bit more personal information on what could or could not work for me, however I am also starting to feel like I just need to DO IT and see how it goes rather than OVER THINKING, it really is starting to get to me! I say this because even though I feel like I have constructed a solid foundation of knowledge (however never enough obviously!) there are certain factors that still throw me off even when I have pretty much decided on the plan. I need help to confirm it to myself once again as I want to do this whole heartedly.

The main things which have worried me slightly as of late include the fact that I did used to suffer from some anxiety and depression because of illegal drugs in the past, and I am slightly worried that if I come off my cycle I may get depressed and anxious once again and I am not sure for how long this could last! It also scares me when I read about people who have gone on to needing TRT for the rest of their life after one cycle! and lastly my girlfriend is a problem in regards to this matter, she was more open and accepting to the idea until a few days ago where all of a sudden by reading a small piece of biased information + Media Bullshit she thinks she knows everything about them and that I will certainly fuck up on them because of my addictive nature etc. Hopefully I do express that I have not just been reading what I like about AS but also the harmful and dangerous side which can exist, I do this because I take this very seriously and would like to make the best of it.

I really look forward to some guidance regarding my concerns.

Thanks

 

[Matt0071]

I am a recovering alc and drug addict myself, as some people may bash me for this post but I am telling u my experience with steroids, like u I have a addictive background, I have been clesn and sober from alc snd drugs minus the steroid use
To answer your question if I am addicted to steroids, I dont know, but I dont shake and go through withdrawls all day long like I did with alc and drugs, I use the gym as my new drug now
If your gf is not cool with it, its only gonna make matters worse if she is worried anout your addictive background bro, my gf did the same too and she still nags here and there about it too
About the anxious feelig who knows, I was a very anxious person when coming off a high smd wanting more, but now the anxious feeling has subsided, but everyone is dif on juice bro
As for the anxious amd depressed feeling depends how long u abused yourself with drugs man, go get some bloods done and see where u stand, as when I finslly recoverd I had low t after 12 years of alc and drug abuse
Once again its my own personal experience with steroids, hope that helps bro

 

[tbonexl]

If your looking into a cycle, don't forget an ai. Clomid is going to probably mess with u on pct. Look into toremiphene.

 

[Black Beard]

If you are not 100 % mentally stable, tread carefully in the world of AAS, and NEVER do something you will regret. She's just scared for you, and that's a good sign that she actually cares. I believe you should wait a bit longer and take time with those gains, that way you can save the steroids to break a true plateau. That's the best way to use them. The two most common reason people cycle 1.Used as a shortcut to get goal physique and 2.Break a plateau/genetic limitation. 2. is always better than 1. Chances are, when you do 1. you are not as ready and experienced as number 2. You will be less likely to keep those gains or get the most out of the steroids. Take your time with changing your physique and have fun with it. Something you will always hear around here is "this is not a race" and it's true. If you are young, or even old, you have decades to enjoy your body. Take it nice and slow. Slow and steady wins the race, and if your girlfriend is not okay with it and you are not so sure yourself, my opinion is that you should wait.

 

[old&stacked]

Henchman, make sure all your demons are either slayed or at rest. AAS like any drug has its own demons that will arise specially if you have an addictive personality. I myself am an alcoholic and have battlefield enduced ptsd. Believe me when I tell you that fighting with your demons when your on 1/2 a gram of test is not fun. Make sure you are ready period.

Good luck to you

 

[Matt0071]

Henchman, make sure all your demons are either slayed or at rest. AAS like any drug has its own demons that will arise specially if you have an addictive personality. I myself am an alcoholic and have battlefield enduced ptsd. Believe me when I tell you that fighting with your demons when your on 1/2 a gram of test is not fun. Make sure you are ready period.

Good luck to you

Are u a recovering alkie or u still drinking?

 

[old&stacked]

Are u a recovering alkie or u still drinking?

5 yrs with out a drop

 

[TheHenchman]

Thanks to all of your for your advice I really appreciate it.

- Matt, it is very helpful and constructive for me to hear from another recovering addicts point of view. I will take your advice and I understand that everyone is going to react differently, this is why I am coming to the conclusion that I need to just try them and see how I react, at the same time I think it is important for me to take my time. With my gf I will have to see how things go, we haven't been on good terms recently and I will have to give it some time until I can consider talking to her about it again. Unfortunately sometimes I feel that my addiction filled past has damaged our relationship severely, if its beyond repair I don't know but I think we can still grow. I abused drugs heavily for 3-4 for years but was in addiction for 6.

-Tbonexl, I have considered an AI but I didn't read that it was as much of a necessity for my cycle, however I do think your right. I do think it would be good to have at hand just in case, would not want bitch tits etc!

-Black Beard, I have really took your advice on board and once again realize the importance of taking it slowly. Its hard because I was so sure until I was thrown off by the way my gf suddenly reacted and then a few horror stories I read after that. Its almost made me loose some of my motivation to go to the gym (thinking that I cant do AS) for example today I just stayed in and read and read about them but haven't actually gone to the gym because I feel like I need ot be sure that I CAN take them some time in the near future. I wouldn't say that I am mentally unstable but at the same time who can say they are always 100% mentally stable? maybe some can but I have never really felt that way, but I absorb your advice regardless.

 

[Matt0071]

5 yrs with out a drop

Congrats man, it's tough specially days like today lol, 2 years for me

 

[TheHenchman]

Thanks old&stacked

I do feel like my mind is pretty backed up and through working the 12 step program I don't feel there is anything I am really resentful or fearful about, I guess apart from loosing my girlfriend or family. Do you still do cycles since you were diagnosed with PTSD? if so how are your anxiety/depression levels after stopping your cycle?

And well done on 5 years clean!

 

[Matt0071]

Thanks old&stacked

I do feel like my mind is pretty backed up and through working the 12 step program I don't feel there is anything I am really resentful or fearful about, I guess apart from loosing my girlfriend or family. Do you still do cycles since you were diagnosed with PTSD? if so how are your anxiety/depression levels after stopping your cycle?

And well done on 5 years clean!

Have u got bloodwork done bro like a full blood panel?, if not u might want to consider it since u abused drugs for awhile that could ofmessed with your natural testosterone making u feel the way u describe

 

[meatmonkey]

I am a recovering alc and drug addict myself, as some people may bash me for this post but I am telling u my experience with steroids, like u I have a addictive background, I have been clesn and sober from alc snd drugs minus the steroid use
To answer your question if I am addicted to steroids, I dont know, but I dont shake and go through withdrawls all day long like I did with alc and drugs, I use the gym as my new drug now
If your gf is not cool with it, its only gonna make matters worse if she is worried anout your addictive background bro, my gf did the same too and she still nags here and there about it too
About the anxious feelig who knows, I was a very anxious person when coming off a high smd wanting more, but now the anxious feeling has subsided, but everyone is dif on juice bro
As for the anxious amd depressed feeling depends how long u abused yourself with drugs man, go get some bloods done and see where u stand, as when I finslly recoverd I had low t after 12 years of alc and drug abuse
Once again its my own personal experience with steroids, hope that helps bro

So glad to read your post! I'm a recovering alcoholic. After a back injury, I couldn't compete NPC anymore, and made the mistake of taking my first drink back then... Yes, the gym disappeared, and empty bottles became part of my life. After finally getting myself straightened out a year ago, I found a doctor who uses amino acids, whey proteins, other supplements, and yes exercise to change the dopamine in the brain which we used to love spiking up with drinking. Getting back to the gym, and NUTRITION has been a life saver! Steroids? I mainly use mild stuff today. Test, deca, primo, masteron, etc.,

 

[Matt0071]

After rehab and 7 months into recovery my liver emzimes were better but ended up finding out part of the reason why I was so depressed and anxious all the time is I had low t

 

[old&stacked]

Thanks old&stacked

I do feel like my mind is pretty backed up and through working the 12 step program I don't feel there is anything I am really resentful or fearful about, I guess apart from loosing my girlfriend or family. Do you still do cycles since you were diagnosed with PTSD? if so how are your anxiety/depression levels after stopping your cycle?

And well done on 5 years clean!

I was put on trt for starters my test took a bad dip and its probably frommany factors toninclude the psycotropics I take. But if I am not taking my meds as I have found out the test wreaks havoc on me. I am always on edge and
snappy. I am on 20mg of prozac and 2 mg of prazosin. It is working great on my anxieties, anger, and depression.

If your on any meds make sure to know their sides and possible inyeractin with AAS. Before starting anything.

 

[Matt0071]

Yeah it was bsd at the end, anything I could get my hands on, lost the house, ex gf, u na, e it, wss drinking mouthwash at the end, woke up after passing out at 2 in the morning, and had I beer left, so decided to got a local pharma and grab 3 jugs of mouthwash, this was a 5 days bender, and admited myself into the hospital, and my emzimes were so far up it wasnt even funny

 

[Matt0071]

Not fun suffering like that, hated life, just isolated myself at the end and drank

 

[Black Beard]

OP, I am glad my words were able to help you. You would be surprised at what someone can attain naturally, especially with hard work, dedication, consistency and good science. Even average genetics can achieve a very aesthetic/powerful body with nutrition and fitness alone. Steroids just get you there faster or help you go above and beyond your genetic limit, which is something most people never even get close to, especially natty. If you truly love training, AAS or not, the gym should always be something you enjoy. There are many health benefits associated with resistance training (improved glucose tolerance and insulin sensitivity, Stress improvement, mood enhancement, etc) Don't think you need gear to be something in this game. The top pros are there because they have the entire package; Genetics, Knowledge, Experience, and a true passion for the sport. Even without gear, they would be the best of the best(in the natural category) Gear is the final tool in your arsenal, so master everything else and the gear will be exponentially more effective for you to reach your goals.

 

[TheHenchman]

Have u got bloodwork done bro like a full blood panel?, if not u might want to consider it since u abused drugs for awhile that could ofmessed with your natural testosterone making u feel the way u describe

Well I haven't had that done but I don't feel anxious or depressed at the moment its just when I was on drugs I used to get really anxious and depressed but I know that this is from the drugs I just wondered if I am more sensitive to these emotions coming up through the use of AS

 

[Black Beard]

Even if you decide to cycle or not. Get bloodwork done right now. Get a natural baseline for yourself. It will be an invaluable tool later on.

 

[meatmonkey]

Even if you decide to cycle or not. Get bloodwork done right now. Get a natural baseline for yourself. It will be an invaluable tool later on.

Probably post of the week!