Qestion about tren a / test cyp Imput would be great!

[ArmenianDeamon]

Hey,


So ill giv ya some stats

23
190lbs
16%bf
5,10"
I lift pretty good amounts and been workin out almost 2 years HARDCORE style and eating strict for 3 years

used to work out alot couple years ago on and off but had busy sched

So i been on fence about gear, alot of people around me do it but i never wanted the health risks, but i want the body i deserve and have been suffering so long and its been great progress but i wanna take it to the next level and see if i can get my motivation back.

I read up alot on tren and test and decided to stack them together, this is my first cycle , altho when i was cutting ive takin alot of clen, and m1ts when i was 17 which were garbage.

This is my plan, im 2 weeks in and starting to get used to the sleeping probs, so far no rage, altho im hot blooded as it is lol.

My Plan:

weeks 1-16 tren ace 1cc every sec day
weeks 2-16? test cyp 1cc twice a week
last 4 weeks Winstrol (winny) tabs 60mg a day

pct nolva



I originally was just gunna do tren but my buddy gave me a bottle of test cyp and a bottle of Winstrol (winny) tabs cus he went to jail so i decided might aswell work it in there.

I am thinking of using the Winstrol (winny) at the end to cut what fat i got left, im mainly tyin to cut fat and put on some lean muscle, my goal is 200 lbs 5-6%bf.

Any help or ideas would be much appreciated, thanks alot, please dont flame me for being noob. lol

 

[Baghli]

maybe someone else will tell u fore sure but typically tren is only advised 6-8weeks n since u were on the fence due to sides i would suggest u stop the tren after 8 weeks tops. also, for more stable blood levels i would do the tren ed. im 5'6 at 150lbs with 10%bf and my cycle is going to be .7cc tren a ed with my test cyp. just what I would do if it was me in ur case, i would do 1cc tren ed for 6-8weeks and start the cyp now since that is going to take a while to build up in your body. there is debate on whether or not u even need the cyp with tren since tren is so much stronger but i like taking it since tren stops ur body from making natural test so i like to maintain some test levels in my body at all times and ur going to c slightly better gains with a test/tren oven a purely tren cycle anyways. im using anavar at 50mgs last 6 weeks of my cycle but Winstrol (winny) will also give u very nice results but Winstrol (winny) is more prone to sides. Cycle I would do if I was you (just my opinion):
test cyp wk1-16 2.5cc weekly (1.25 twice a week)
tren a wk1-8 1cc ED
winny 60mg week 9-12

and this is my PCT:
week 1-5 Tribulus 1500mg ED
week 1 Tamox/Nolva 40mg ED
week 2-5 Tamox/Nolva 20mg ED
week 1-4 Aromasin 20mg ED

 

[ArmenianDeamon]

Thanks so question,

how do you tell if you have gyno, high estrogen levels or progesterone levels on or after cycle?

 

[Baghli]

gyno ull have sensitive or puffy nipples and/or lump usually in the nipple area. and you might just start growing bitch tits n ull b able to c those assuming ur lean. high levels ull tend to get symptoms... just google symptoms of high estrogen in men and ull get plenty of details, same for what ever else. u can also always have routine blood work done which is what i do but typically u need to have blood work done before u start cycle so u have something to compare to but ur doc will be able to tell u if its way too high... if u get blood work done then ur likely going to have elevated levels so keep that in mind, thats normal and going to happen.

 

[Shaptown]

terrible.

you are so uninformed it is incredible. you are way too young to be cycling too.

read up for a couple of years and learn how to properly train your body and eat.

also, noone with a good head on their shoulders does a cycle without test. tren is also only for experienced users.