Question about T3 levels after use

[Northh]

Will my levels go back to normal after use? Looking for answers from people who have used it. Also if you noticed a good difference in fat loss

 

[Megatron28]

Usually TSH returns to normal.

Are you planning on running Testosterone as well?

 

[Northh]

Usually TSH returns to normal.

Are you planning on running Testosterone as well?

I'm running a prohormone (trenavar) with clen

 

[Megatron28]

I'm running a prohormone (trenavar) with clen

Then you can't run T3. It needs to be run with testosterone if you are a male.

 

[Black Beard]

Yeah, once you surpass the physiological limit of T3 in the body, you will have increased fat and muscle loss. People who are hyperthyroid have trouble building muscle. My theory is that ectomorphs might have subclinical hyperthyroidism or free t3 levels at least in the upper range or even increased receptors in the body. I have a friend who was hyperthyroid, he was skinny as a rail. Once he got treated for it, he put on more weight, a good amount of muscle too. High levels of testosterone increase muscle retention and protect you from the catabolic effect of too much t3.

 

[anzel]

Yeah, once you surpass the physiological limit of T3 in the body, you will have increased fat and muscle loss. People who are hyperthyroid have trouble building muscle. My theory is that ectomorphs might have subclinical hyperthyroidism or free t3 levels at least in the upper range or even increased receptors in the body. I have a friend who was hyperthyroid, he was skinny as a rail. Once he got treated for it, he put on more weight, a good amount of muscle too. High levels of testosterone increase muscle retention and protect you from the catabolic effect of too much t3.

Interesting theory!

 

[Northh]

Yeah, once you surpass the physiological limit of T3 in the body, you will have increased fat and muscle loss. People who are hyperthyroid have trouble building muscle. My theory is that ectomorphs might have subclinical hyperthyroidism or free t3 levels at least in the upper range or even increased receptors in the body. I have a friend who was hyperthyroid, he was skinny as a rail. Once he got treated for it, he put on more weight, a good amount of muscle too. High levels of testosterone increase muscle retention and protect you from the catabolic effect of too much t3.

What about using anavar with the t3 because that's what I have

 

[Megatron28]

What about using anavar with the t3 because that's what I have

Definitely no. Anavar shuts off your testosterone production. You need testosterone with T3. In general, you always need Test to be healthy.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Usually TSH returns to normal.

Interestingly, alot of studies show TSH returning to the normal ranges but NOT to the exact point it was before the t3 cycle.
Similar to recovering test after a cycle, but noticing that although your natty levels are back withon range, they're not quite where they used to be.

Intrigued to get your view on this Mega, I recall austinite doing research on this but does tsh FULLY recover to pre-cycle levels or just enough to get back within normal ranges? Regardless of length of t3 use?

Based on my experiences I have my doubts but interested to hear your view anyway.

 

[Rida5d]

Interestingly, alot of studies show TSH returning to the normal ranges but NOT to the exact point it was before the t3 cycle.
Similar to recovering test after a cycle, but noticing that although your natty levels are back withon range, they're not quite where they used to be.

Intrigued to get your view on this Mega, I recall austinite doing research on this but does tsh FULLY recover to pre-cycle levels or just enough to get back within normal ranges? Regardless of length of t3 use?

Based on my experiences I have my doubts but interested to hear your view anyway.

As far as I'm remember austinite never said anything about restoring ur tsh in a lower number and the guy was so much accurate in describing things.. This tell me that his point of view is that you recover well , and at the same level after stopping it..

Anyways , T3 Will be in my stack once I reduce my bodyfat to an accepted number ,
I ll be glad to post my blood reading before and after.

 

[Megatron28]

Interestingly, alot of studies show TSH returning to the normal ranges but NOT to the exact point it was before the t3 cycle.
Similar to recovering test after a cycle, but noticing that although your natty levels are back withon range, they're not quite where they used to be.

Intrigued to get your view on this Mega, I recall austinite doing research on this but does tsh FULLY recover to pre-cycle levels or just enough to get back within normal ranges? Regardless of length of t3 use?

Based on my experiences I have my doubts but interested to hear your view anyway.

I can only share my limited personal experience. I have only run T3 once for a couple of months. Here are my TSH results.

2.500 on 4/23/2013 (pre-T3)
0.027 on 8/2/3013 (while on T3)
2.300 on 10/1/2013 (post-T3)
2.600 on 12/31/2013 (post-T3)

I seem have recovered to where I was previously. But this is just one blast of T3 and a very limited data set. I might have to check it again one of these days to see where my TSH is at now.

P.S. My T3 was from RUI.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Thanks to both Mega & Rida for the replies.

Maybe its a time dependent thing - the longer your on t3 the longer it takes to fully recover, rather than a case of insufficient recovery.
I've had clients with bloodwork showing recovery being a little bit below maximum - we're talking 0.2-.0.3 differences.

Next time I'll make sure to get follow up bloodwork to give it another 2/3 months for the tsh to peak.
Interesting food for thought anyway.

 

[Rida5d]

Maybe its a time dependent thing - the longer your on t3 the longer it takes to fully recover, rather than a case of insufficient recovery.

Makes a lot of sense ..

 

[JimiThing]

Hey ripped google Greer et al. Even after years of t3 supplementation when patients stopped they returned to pre exogenous t3 administration levels withing just weeks. That is full recovery based on pre administration levels.

 

[ozzyozzy21]

I can only share my limited personal experience. I have only run T3 once for a couple of months. Here are my TSH results.

2.500 on 4/23/2013 (pre-T3)
0.027 on 8/2/3013 (while on T3)
2.300 on 10/1/2013 (post-T3)
2.600 on 12/31/2013 (post-T3)

I seem have recovered to where I was previously. But this is just one blast of T3 and a very limited data set. I might have to check it again one of these days to see where my TSH is at now.

P.S. My T3 was from RUI.

Solid post here! Thanks for the data!

 

[Black Beard]

Remember to get your tsh done at the same time and as early as possible. The largest spike in TSH occurs early in the morning , the same as testosterone and cortisol.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

Hey ripped google Greer et al. Even after years of t3 supplementation when patients stopped they returned to pre exogenous t3 administration levels withing just weeks. That is full recovery based on pre administration levels.

Thanks Jimi, I've seen plenty of data suggesting no problems with recovery of natural thyroid output even after years of t3 use, such as:
Recovery of pituitary thyrotropic function after withdrawal of prol... - PubMed - NCBI

But it doesnt seem to have played out in real life for some of my clients, maybe the dosing was too high, maybe not enough time had passed to allow full recovery, maybe I'm missing something else.
I'll get them to do follow up bloodwork to see if some people simply need more time to recover their natural tsh levels.