question on gyno

[jacked-ford]

Hey i started my first cycle doing 300 mg of equipoise and 250 mg of enathate and at the end of my 5th week i cut it due to no results. I was training with a guy who is very knowledgeable on steroids and he was doing the same cycle and he told me quit it. However i did develop a lump in my nipple. It is hard and hurts to touch. the guy im training with unfortunately is not to knowledgeable on gyno. so im just curious if that is what it is? I have takin liquid tamoxifen for 5 days now and nothing has happened. Also I have what i believe to be a good cycle lined up to take its been about a month sense the last crap cycle so is it ok to start that now and just not worry about the gyno until im done with the next cycle? cause if it is just all about have a sore nipple and nothin serious screw it ill deal with it.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Hey i started my first cycle doing 300 mg of equipoise and 250 mg of enathate and at the end of my 5th week i cut it due to no results. I was training with a guy who is very knowledgeable on steroids and he was doing the same cycle and he told me quit it. However i did develop a lump in my nipple. It is hard and hurts to touch. the guy im training with unfortunately is not to knowledgeable on gyno. so im just curious if that is what it is? I have takin liquid tamoxifen for 5 days now and nothing has happened. Also I have what i believe to be a good cycle lined up to take its been about a month sense the last crap cycle so is it ok to start that now and just not worry about the gyno until im done with the next cycle? cause if it is just all about have a sore nipple and nothin serious screw it ill deal with it.

wow bro....many things wrong here...

first of all you shouldnt be doing more eq then test....second you were not doing enough of either to even really notice anything....third tamoxifen (nolvadex) isnt an anti e, its for post cycle therapy (pct). You need aromasin at 12.5mg/ed while on cycle....fourth you need to post cycle therapy (pct) before you think about starting another cycle....

your next cycle should just be test e at 500mg every week...thats 250mg mon and thurs...for 12 weeks....you dont have much of a clue here about this and it doesnt sound like your buddy does either or he would have completely overhauled your last cycle.

just because you get a lump...yes its gyno...doesnt mean to stop your cycle..it means you need to control your estrogen

 

[coltmc45]

wow bro....many things wrong here...

first of all you shouldnt be doing more eq then test....second you were not doing enough of either to even really notice anything....third tamoxifen (nolvadex) isnt an anti e, its for post cycle therapy (pct). You need aromasin at 12.5mg/ed while on cycle....fourth you need to post cycle therapy (pct) before you think about starting another cycle....

your next cycle should just be test e at 500mg every week...thats 250mg mon and thurs...for 12 weeks....you dont have much of a clue here about this and it doesnt sound like your buddy does either or he would have completely overhauled your last cycle.

just because you get a lump...yes its gyno...doesnt mean to stop your cycle..it means you need to control your estrogen

All of the above X2 Couldn't of said it better myself

 

[djm6464]

just because you get a lump...yes its gyno...doesnt mean to stop your cycle..it means you need to control your estrogen

agreed, and speaking from current experience.....finish the cycle, control e2 to minimize the damage....take care of it later, in any number of ways that might work

 

[Matthew121]

Besides the fact that you were doing the wrong amounts, Test E takes atleast 4-5 weeks to show results, why not ask another source, adjust your dosage and take advantage of the cycle youre already in. USe the search function BRAH!

 

[jacked-ford]

Ok so sense i already trashed the last cycle obviously i cant keep it going but sense its been a month well 5 weeks to be exact should i still jump on a post cycle therapy (pct) or is it all flushed out by now.

 

[Cobra Strike]

Ok so sense i already trashed the last cycle obviously i cant keep it going but sense its been a month well 5 weeks to be exact should i still jump on a pct or is it all flushed out by now.

pct is not meant to flush aas out...it is meant to try and help kick start your hpta....I wouldnt try to recover naturally if I were you...that could take quite awhile...

start pct now

 

[JEDI-D.U.I.]

Listen to Cobra. There is also a great sticky at the top of this forum about PCT. Read, read, read and read some more. Nobody can do all the work for you bro.

 

[Boozie]

I am in a very similar situation as jacked-ford. This is my first cycle and I am taking about 500 mg of a pharmaceutical brand testosterone per week, called super testosterone. (about .6 cc twice a week)
- 50mg Testosterone Propionate
- 75mg Testosterone PhenylPropionate
- 75mg Testosterone Isocaproate
- 100mg Testosterone Decanoate
- 100mg Testosterone Cypionate

I am on the third week and recently felt some gyno developing under my left nipple. It is pretty hard and has now become very sensitive. It's not too big yet but I feel like it has gotten slightly bigger this past week. I currently have on hand what my friend recommended to me as a PCT which is
- USP Clomiphene Citrate 50mg/ml
-USP Tamoxifen Citrate 10mg/ml

My question is, should I maybe buy some nolvadex or even letro to take while im finishing the test? Or could I maybe run what I have on hand? I just want to get rid of this gyno without killing my sex drive and the gains im receiving from the cycle. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am 21 years old 6'0, 200lbs about 10%BF. Thanks

 

[coltmc45]

^^^ 1 you're too young to be cycling. 2. 3 weeks in you wouldn't have a lump that wasn't already there before. That being said, Get some letro since you already have a lump. Start at .1 ml and taper up every 2-3 days til your at a full ml. Stay on it til lump disappears and then taper down the same as you tapered up. When you finish letro start some aromasin Ed at 25 to prevent gyno from coming back. Nolva is for pct and won't do shit for gyno bro. You need to knock it out now before it gets too bad and won't go away without surgery. I'm currently on letro and tapering down and on week 11 of my cycle. I've noticed a lower sex drive and a little tired here and there but it's nothing that isn't manageable. No hindrance in gains as long as you're still eating right.

 

[Boozie]

I took a PH last year that might have caused a small lump that went unnoticed. So youre recommending that i start letro asap? The cycle I am on is supposed to last about 8 weeks. How long should i take the letro and at what doses? Also, is it ok to be on letro once i start my PCT? Ive read a lot of threads saying that tamoxifen and clomiphene can help reduce gyno too. I was hoping letro would be a last resort. Where could I get letro and aromasin ed for a good price. I have never bought products like these? Thanks.

 

[coltmc45]

Test should be ran 10 weeks min. Yeah you would of had to already have it. Check precisionpeptides. Cheapest I've found. I just ordered some aromasin about an hr ago myself. Start your letro at .1 ml and taper up every 3 days by .1 ml til your at a full ml (2.5 mg) stay on it til your lump goes away and taper back down the same way you tapered up. Tamo (nolva) and clomid are serms which is for pct.

 

[Boozie]

Awesome. So just to clear things up I need to take the letro asap at .1ml tapering up every 3 days until i reach 1ml. Then once the lump is gone begin tapering down every 3 days until I am back down to .1ml then stop? This will probably be around the time I will be starting my PCT. Do you reccomend running my PCT,
- USP Clomiphene Citrate 50mg/ml
-USP Tamoxifen Citrate 10mg/ml
along with the aromasin as well?

 

[Boozie]

Also, I am a little skeptical about buying my letro off of precisionpeptides. Most sites are a lot more expensive and are selling a 60 ml-2.5mg/ml vial all above $50. Pp has a buy one get on free costing $9.99. Seems a little too good to be true to me. You think their sutff is legit?

 

[traviswyliedime]

Also, I am a little skeptical about buying my letro off of precisionpeptides. Most sites are a lot more expensive and are selling a 60 ml-2.5mg/ml vial all above $50. Pp has a buy one get on free costing $9.99. Seems a little too good to be true to me. You think their sutff is legit?

pp is g2g bro...used their stuff many times and never had a problem

 

[Boozie]

pp is g2g bro...used their stuff many times and never had a problem

Have you used their letro? I keep reading through several different threads and am hearing that pp is crap. I also just spent about 30 minutes trying to talk to someone on their customer service line and no answer.

 

[Natehayes]

Have you used their letro? I keep reading through several different threads and am hearing that pp is crap. I also just spent about 30 minutes trying to talk to someone on their customer service line and no answer.

I haven't used them, so I can't really comment on their quality but if it was me and I was at all hesitant I would just pop for the extra money and order form RUI. I have used a lot of their stuff and it has all been GTG.

 

[Boozie]

Appreciate all the feedback guys. Thanks.

 

[coltmc45]

I've used rui and theyre g2g. I just ordered from pp due to their prices and there's a couple of very respected members here that use pp and they recommend it so I went ahead and ordered through them.