question on sides

[kube]

im asking this question on behalf of a good friend who has tried to do a cycle two or three times. the problem is with side effects. the first time he did a cycle it was test cypionate. he tells me he had to inject every three days due to it being water based. i think he may be misinformed. anyways, he was 17 and would not listen to reason but had to stop after 5ccs of it. if it is pertinant i will ask him the exact doses he was taking. this is what happened to him. he would get bad panic attacks says he felt like he was in a coffin, couldnt breath, thought he was going to die. developed very itchy skin especially in the lower body. quit the cycle. he has tried again twice with same results. i have personally seen him flip out on muscle relaxers. panic attacks and extemely cold sweat. shortness of breath. on codein bros. so whats up? could it be auto intoxication? could it be that his body cant handle the shit? any thoughts would be appreciated since he has been dealing with this for a long time. thanks.

 

[kube]

wow, whats up with my rating?

 

[kube]

ive advised him to have bloodwork done and to get a series of colonics to clean up his digestive system and help take some of the load off his liver and kidneys. then more bloodwork to see if its helping. maybe fasting would help too. but weight loss is definitely not a good thing in his book. id like to hear the opinion of some of the docs here. thanks.

 

[bigdelt69]

water based cyp? I have never heard of that. It was more than likly suspension, which does indeed do a number on my nerves. He could also be alergic to the ba content used. What ever the deal is, tell your friend to find out exactly what he used and from now on do some research.

 

[kube]

thanks bro, the thing is hes scared to do another cycle (with good reason) and since he reacted similarly to codein i figure hes probably very intoxicated. is this possible? he is considering doing an orals only cycle since the half life is very short but i tell him that hes gonna have more issues this way if indeed it is a matter of his system being overwhelmed. thanks for the input bigdelt.

 

[bigdelt69]

This is what a wise man once told me when I was asking strange questions. If you want to start Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) right now, wait a year and study all you can about it. Then after that year has passed and you think you know it all, wait another year and then start

 

[kube]

thats basically what im doing right now. ive done one cycle but i lost all my gains due to a pulmonary infection. its been two years and ive learned a shitload in that time. ive also gained back what i lost. believe it or not ive learned alot more on this forum than i did in two years of reading whatever i could find on the net. im hoping to do a cycle in six months. maybe less if i get where i want to be sooner. i have most of the gear im gonna use too. been slowly builing up a collection. im asking these questions on behalf of a homeboy because he has always been sayin how he wants to get big and well, the experiences hes had are kind of strange. not having alot of firsthand knowledge about the side effects of different Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) i was hoping someone would enlighten me about possible reasons for his reactions. your advice is actually very good. the more i learn the more i want to wait and do it right. thanks.

 

[kube]

heres what he was doing.

Now on my cycle and past history with gear. I was taking test called Enthanate
it was of mexican grade the company started with a B it was real popular, but I
think it went out of business. I was also taking deca 10cc bottle with it you
know stacking. I started with half a cc of each and moved up to 1cc each for
the first of week then moved up to two cc of each on my third week and man did I
start feeling like shit(which is common flu like symptoms). I started getting
panic attacks for no reason and my legs started itching a lot. I felt irritated
a lot of the times, but what scared me when I would get a panic attack I felt
like I was going crazy. I read that very few people are allergic to test but
that the ones who are complain of itching legs who knows. I can get blood test done as of
matter of fact i just got some done about three months ago i can request for the
results if you want and can scan them and send them to you. They did not find
nothing wrong except that a certain enzyme was a little high in my liver. They
asked me if I was drinking the night before, but you know that I don't drink so
that was a little weird.

 

[bigdelt69]

People should be taking leasons from bro's like you. Everyone needs to do their homework FIRST.

 

[kube]

youre gonna laugh when i tell you why i got interested in steroids. it was to show him proof through research or studies that the gear was bad for him and would fuck him up. i truly believed all the govt sponsored bad propaganda. but what can i say? i was young and naive. well, i found out the opposite. that there were many legitimate uses for it and that used properly it was very safe. of course i admitted that i was wrong, but that he had to wait until he was older or it would be a waste. he didnt listen, and obviously didnt do enough research by the look at his cycle above. he starts off with half a cc of test and half a cc of decca. then does one cc of each, then 2 i think. then he gets bad side effects and stops. kind of a waste. are the above symptoms normal or did they occur due to uneven blood levels? also, could he not tolerate meds including gear due to having some liver values high? these are my questions. thanks and laters.

 

[xtinct]

If he has weird sides, I suggest that he try some orals. Not that orals are inherently less likely to cause sides, but at least they have a short half-life, and if you start having problems you just stop taking them and they will be out of your system faster than any injectable.

 

[kube]

yeah, thats what he was thinking too. thanks.