Questions about a PH?

dh1210

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Well here is the PH i have and want to run its very similar to Myogenix Spawn but i think its a little more potent.

2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol= 10mg
19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione = 50mg

Well here is my questions this would be my first ever PH or cycle so I'm needing a little advice from experienced users. Do y'all think this PH is going to shut down my libdo and if so what can i take to help boost it back up? I will be running cycle guard throughout the cycle which should help also. I have read a lot about post cycle therapy (pct) for this PH and I've read some guys talk about using a SERM (Clomid) but I've also read and talked to guys that said its not needed and just a natural test or something like Reversitol V2 or DAA can be used. So what do y'all suggest? Well any good advice would be appreciated. thanks in advance.
 
if that stuff is legit based on the compounds and mg per cap it should be awesome. But i am guessing you found this stuff on ebay or amazon. Stay away from that.

So many ppl sell fake PH's on there its not even funny. Sure there are some legit guys i wouldnt gamble on it.

any ph/aas/ds will require a pct....anytime you give your body testosterone it will stop making it. your libido will drop, but how much....IDK? everyone is different. I hit my girl hard no matter if i am ON or not. I never get a hard libido hit, but others can barely get it up....



This ph your looking at has oral tren....it is somewhat harsh and isnt the best idea for someone's 1st time.

pickup a bottle of hellardol. there will be enough caps in it to run 2 cycles. Helladrol is the same thing as h drol/ halovar/ etc etc....all the clone of the gaspari halodrol-50.


its a great ph cuz there are pretty much zero side effects. very very low chance of getting gyno or any other ill effect. you will still need a serm/AI/t booster for pct.

cycle support is another thing i didnt see you mention. N2Gaurd is a all in one support. liver support, prostate, cholestrol, blood pressure, multi vitamin, etc etc. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) also makes life support as an option.
 
if that stuff is legit based on the compounds and mg per cap it should be awesome. But i am guessing you found this stuff on ebay or amazon. Stay away from that.

So many ppl sell fake PH's on there its not even funny. Sure there are some legit guys i wouldnt gamble on it.

any ph/aas/ds will require a pct....anytime you give your body testosterone it will stop making it. your libido will drop, but how much....IDK? everyone is different. I hit my girl hard no matter if i am ON or not. I never get a hard libido hit, but others can barely get it up....



This ph your looking at has oral tren....it is somewhat harsh and isnt the best idea for someone's 1st time.

pickup a bottle of hellardol. there will be enough caps in it to run 2 cycles. Helladrol is the same thing as h drol/ halovar/ etc etc....all the clone of the gaspari halodrol-50.


its a great ph cuz there are pretty much zero side effects. very very low chance of getting gyno or any other ill effect. you will still need a serm/AI/t booster for pct.

cycle support is another thing i didnt see you mention. N2Gaurd is a all in one support. liver support, prostate, cholestrol, blood pressure, multi vitamin, etc etc. Aromatase inhibitor (AI) also makes life support as an option.

No i did not buy this stuff over the internet i bought it from a local supplement store but you know you can't always believe what people tell you so thats why i am just taking the extra precautions and learning more about this PH that i am gonna take. I am not interested in any other PHs i have already purchased this one so i want to run this one. And if you read my first post i stated i will be running cycle guard throughout the cycle. Well thanks for your input anyways.
 
No i did not buy this stuff over the internet i bought it from a local supplement store but you know you can't always believe what people tell you so thats why i am just taking the extra precautions and learning more about this PH that i am gonna take. I am not interested in any other PHs i have already purchased this one so i want to run this one. And if you read my first post i stated i will be running cycle guard throughout the cycle. Well thanks for your input anyways.

Can you give us your stats and training history so we have a better idea of where you're coming from? Also, what's the actual name of the PH?

With that combo I would most definitely use a SERM. Your libido may take a dive, but it really depends on you. Whenever I've taken a PH I've been totally fine, but I know dudes that just stand there smacking it around trying to get a rise, but to no avail.

on a side note I am very surprised you were able to find a PH with Tren in it at a supplement shop since Tren was banned, but whatever, it's their issue if they get caught.
 
Well here is the PH i have and want to run its very similar to Myogenix Spawn but i think its a little more potent.

2a, 3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol= 10mg
19-norandrosta 4,9 diene 3, 17 dione = 50mg

Well here is my questions this would be my first ever PH or cycle so I'm needing a little advice from experienced users. Do y'all think this PH is going to shut down my libdo and if so what can i take to help boost it back up? yes it will shut you down. any anabolic will. use DAA or HCGenerate while on if you want your libido to stay put. transderm is also an option. It will provide a test base similar to inj cycles. I will be running cycle guard throughout the cycle which should help also. I have read a lot about post cycle therapy (pct) for this PH and I've read some guys talk about using a SERM (Clomid) but I've also read and talked to guys that said its not needed and just a natural test or something like Reversitol V2 or DAA can be used. So what do y'all suggest? you need a serm with this PH, it is very potent which is why i was trying to steer you away from it. You will not recover properly without clomid/nolva/or torem. get a holf of one of the 3. Well any good advice would be appreciated. thanks in advance.



post cycle therapy (pct)

nolva 40/40/20/10
DAA
AI of your choice
T booser of your choice.




i dont think DAA will cut it on t booster alone.
 
Your libido should be fine I have never had any problems personally while on PH cycles. IDK how serious of a PH you got since you bought it from a store but since you have already bought it you might as well take it. Make sure that for your post cycle therapy (pct) that you find is legit nolva though there are a shit load of companies that advertise as the real thing but is nothing more then some BS vitamins, there is no sense in taking a cheap post cycle therapy (pct) regardless of how legit your PH's are.
 




pct

nolva 40/40/20/10
DAA
AI of your choice
T booser of your choice.




i dont think DAA will cut it on t booster alone.

Everything that gymrat has said.

You need to use a SERM either if it's nolva(not the gaspari shit) or Clomid.

Also it would be a good idea to slowly taper off on the SERM so it would reduce the chance of rebound.
 
dont let the word 'pro-hormone' fool you...PH's are very effective and will shut you down hard. i made the mistake of listening to some dumbass i-force rep and using reversitol as pct for my first ph cycle...if i ever met that guy in person, i'd kick him in the nuts.

as mentioned..hdrol is a nice ph to start with..mild in terms of sides(some experience none)...great gains!
 
Thank you for all the replies. i will be using Clomid as my post cycle therapy (pct). Ok so my next question is how do i dose the clomid as soon as my cycle ends? I was told to take 1ml a day. Is that correct?
 
Depends on what the concentration is but 50mg a day is usually recommended. Some like 100mg per day for the first week, the 50mg for two weeks and 25mg for the last week.

The half life of epi is short though i'm not sure about the other compound. Either way you can start PCT right after and you should be fine.
 
Thank you for all the replies. i will be using Clomid as my post cycle therapy (pct). Ok so my next question is how do i dose the clomid as soon as my cycle ends? I was told to take 1ml a day. Is that correct?

50mg is 1ml since your taking the liquid, as stated ^ you can do 100/50/50/25 or 50/50/25/25
 
Thank you for all the replies. i will be using Clomid as my post cycle therapy (pct). Ok so my next question is how do i dose the clomid as soon as my cycle ends? I was told to take 1ml a day. Is that correct?

depending on the mg per ml of clomid you have take 100mg for the 1st 2 days of post cycle therapy (pct). than drop down to 50mg for 3wks. than 25mg the last wk of post cycle therapy (pct).

use a low dosed Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and t booster while in post cycle therapy (pct) also. both will helpout the clomid quite a bit.
 
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