Questions on cycle--mma/bjj friendly

jwv2

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I'm 34, and a semi-retired combat athlete (likely to have no more pro fights so drug testing is not an issue). I am recovering from shoulder and elbow surgery, I'm almost 5 months post-op and have been fully released as far as physical activity goes. I trained around these injuries for over a year and the result was a huge loss of muscle mass and strength (compounded by the natural effects of aging). Currently 180 lbs. and somewhat soft. Usually I am 190-195 and pretty ripped. This will be my 3rd cycle in my lifetime.

I've been prescribed: nandrolone (deca) at 1.5 ml. per week it's 200/mg/ml.
Quad test (sustanon 4 testosterone blend 1.5 ml. per week it's 250/mg/ml.
Stanozolol (winstrol) 1 ml every other day, it's 50 mg/ml.
Novarel (Chorionic Gonadotropin) 1000 units, 1 time per week.

Doctor tells me (after sending out my blood work for 2 opinions) my testosterone levels are very low, a likely result of crashing after surgery, so that’s why the test. The deca is to help the joints and ligaments, particularly the shoulder and elbow. The winstrol is because I have a tendency to gain weight the few times I took anything before and I need my muscular endurance for my chosen activities. He said the Novarel should be done throughout the cycle, not just for PCT.

I basically have 3 questions, I'd appreciate answers to, that the doctor seems a bit iffy on:

1) Do I need to take the novarel every week throughout the entire cycle? Most people I know (and I myself before) use it at the end of a cycle. But my doc recommneds 1000 units every week, through the entire cycle.
2) Should I begin the Winstrol right away? Doc says I should wait to see if I'm getting fat, losing endurance, etc. and then add it in. I have it here already though, and wonder if I should do it for the duration of the cycle?
3) Sustanon is recommended once a week, 1.5 ml a week. Should I do .5 ml every other day? I've heard (and done this before, supposedly sustanon is better every other day rather than once a week?)?

Thanks for the advice.
 
Welcome to Ology.

There's a few changes that need to be made, i'll list them below;

Sust - 250mgs - once a week
Deca - 200mgs - once a week
HCG - 250iu's - every 4th day
Arimidex - 0.25mgs - every day

Stay away from winstrol, it's the absolute worst compound you could run with an injury; not mention a shoulder injury. Not only is winstrol horrible on your lipid profile, HPTA, and hair line.... it's designed to rid water which you're going to need to keep your joints actively working properly. You're not going to get fat, that's just a silly statement..... you will perhaps retain water which is all part of it. Arimidex will keep water retention under control, however, the most important component is your diet whenmwanting to avoid retaining water.

Also, Anavar@40mgs every day would be very benefical for what you're trying to achieve

Good Luck
 
From everything I've read about Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) (including this helpful thread http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47024 ) you don't want to take that much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) all at once, but rather break it up into something like 250iu shots or maybe as much as 500iu, but not more than that so you don't desensitize some important stuff down there.
 
Thanks for the info, I was getting alot of conflicting info about running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during or after the cycle.
 
jwv2 said:
Thanks for the info, I was getting alot of conflicting info about running Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during or after the cycle.


Yeah I def know the feeling. Check out some of the stickies - they are a big help, and don't trust one opinion. Look around and you'll start seeing similar info more and more.

And as far as cycles go, also keep in mind that what works for one guy might not be the thing for you. Body chemistry is inherently the same, but also highly unique at the same time.
 
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