Questions on tren bomb and sd matrix

[Jablesjables]

Hey guys. Im curious on two products from certain makers. I want to know if they are worth the money or just knock offs.

Alpha labs extreme tren bomb
Generation SD matrix

Neither have high ratings, but it could very well be the sides. Any info on either (preferably both) would be a great help. Thanks guys

PS. Both come in a bundle with an over the counter post cycle therapy (pct), saying that its all you need. I know serms are better, but it throws me off a bit

 

[fartsmeller]

Generation SD matrix i have had these with good gains but lower back pain almost as good as steds