I just started my cycle of win. and tren. I feel fantastic! I have just been hearing some conflicting stories about win. Some say e.o.d. is fine and others say that it has to be e.d. I guess the same ? would go for tren too. What is your guys opinion. Oh and one good thing is the pain from the win is really mild. I thought it was going to be much worse but its not! prop hurt wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy worse! Anyone else experience this? thanks guys!