Safest (Liver) Steroids?

[Bulldog2103]

So far, I have come up with Deca-Durobolin, Equipoise, Primobolan and Testosterone. Does this sound about right? Are there any more out there?

I am looking for the safest liver stack I can find so am obviously looking at injectables only. My first thought was to try a 6 week test prop solo (thinking 400mg's weekly) to see how I respond and if all goes well to add in some primo and perhaps extend the cycle to 8-10 weeks.

I have a compromised liver through no fault of my own and have to be very cautious. I am going to try this once and if it doesn't work out then I will have to accept that it is not for me. Any advice would be appreciated.

Stats: 5'9'' 185 probably 15% bodyfat
Tried a few days of prop and tren ace and experienced liver pain after three days, also ended up with test flu, 103 degree temp for 3-4 days.

 

[cool dude]

Anybody gets test flu. I would be concerned if u did 3 days of gear and experienced liver pain. If u choose to go ahead I wld strongly suggest staying with short ester compounds like test p and NPP in casesomething happens u can have it out of your system quick. If it was me I think I wld. pass on gear. Good luck brother

 

[cool dude]

Oh and I forgot to mention to make sure you're taking all the liver support and lipid support. But then again I dont know if thats very good advice being I dont know whats wrong with your liver

 

[BoBoy]

You need to be more specific when you say you have liver problems . What does your Metabolic Panel look like ? AST , ALT ? T-Bili ? Albumin , Globulin ? Alk Phosphate ? You need to know these values before you put any AAS in your body . And I would forget about "stacking" until you know more ....~Bo

 

[Bulldog2103]

You need to be more specific when you say you have liver problems . What does your Metabolic Panel look like ? AST , ALT ? T-Bili ? Albumin , Globulin ? Alk Phosphate ? You need to know these values before you put any AAS in your body . And I would forget about "stacking" until you know more ....~Bo

At the moment my alt and ast are three times the heighth of the normal range. Bilirubin is normal, I don't have the other numbers as my recent tests didn't have those included. To give those numbers perspective, they were elevated due to an ostarine cycle that I had to cut short after 22 days due to the elevation.

These numbers are current from two weeks ago and I have since started on a liver stack including milk thistle, nac, inositol, selennium, glutathione, r-ala and udca.

 

[ryand]

At the moment my alt and ast are three times the heighth of the normal range. Bilirubin is normal, I don't have the other numbers as my recent tests didn't have those included. To give those numbers perspective, they were elevated due to an ostarine cycle that I had to cut short after 22 days due to the elevation.

These numbers are current from two weeks ago and I have since started on a liver stack including milk thistle, nac, inositol, selennium, glutathione, r-ala and udca.

What's the reason you have a compromised liver? ...condition, disease, etc?

 

[Bulldog2103]

What's the reason you have a compromised liver? ...condition, disease, etc?

Hep-C. My enzymes generally fluctuate but my liver is generally in decent condition. I figure the tren ace caused the liver pain so that's why I cut that cycle short and am looking for alternatives.

 

[juced_porkchop]

So far, I have come up with Deca-Durobolin, Equipoise, Primobolan and Testosterone. Does this sound about right? Are there any more out there?

I am looking for the safest liver stack I can find so am obviously looking at injectables only. My first thought was to try a 6 week test prop solo (thinking 400mg's weekly) to see how I respond and if all goes well to add in some primo and perhaps extend the cycle to 8-10 weeks.

I have a compromised liver through no fault of my own and have to be very cautious. I am going to try this once and if it doesn't work out then I will have to accept that it is not for me. Any advice would be appreciated.

Stats: 5'9'' 185 probably 15% bodyfat
Tried a few days of prop and tren ace and experienced liver pain after three days, also ended up with test flu, 103 degree temp for 3-4 days.

are you sure it was not kidnys?
Liver is not really effected with tren and even kidnys its due to dehydration for the most part.
drink LOTS of water all the time.


Most injectables are not considerd liver toxic.

injactable Winstrol (winny) is liver toxic and welll basically injectable orals.

I would rec staying with :
test, primo, mast, deca

(not all at same time, but just in general)

 

[Bulldog2103]

are you sure it was not kidnys?
Liver is not really effected with tren and even kidnys its due to dehydration for the most part.
drink LOTS of water all the time.


Most injectables are not considerd liver toxic.

injactable Winstrol (winny) is liver toxic and welll basically injectable orals.

I would rec staying with :
test, primo, mast, deca

(not all at same time, but just in general)

Kidneys are fine, my creatnine has always been normal and I drink close to two gallons per day so urine is always clear. Anyone see any issues with a test only cycle to assess tolerance?

 

[BoBoy]

Hep-C. My enzymes generally fluctuate but my liver is generally in decent condition. I figure the tren ace caused the liver pain so that's why I cut that cycle short and am looking for alternatives.

I would work with your doctor as far as steroids go , I would doubt if he would approve anything stronger than testosterone , and then only in lighter doses . Forget the Tren , too strong . Have you started Interferon yet ?? I"m not a doctor but have took care of alot of sick folks in my life , including Hep B & C . ~Bo

 

[BoBoy]

I would work with your doctor as far as steroids go , I would doubt if he would approve anything stronger than testosterone , and then only in lighter doses . Forget the Tren , too strong . Have you started Interferon yet ?? I"m not a doctor but have took care of alot of sick folks in my life , including Hep B & C . ~Bo

I want to add I have seen people beat Hep-C before , but it takes several different kinds of "cocktails" including Interferon , and healthy living . It also depends which geno type you have , but you probably already know this ..... you can also PM me if you want to......~Bo

 

[Harnold]

liver problems

manproblems an, stay away from gear if you have liver problems. you're just asking for trouble, not worth it.
2cnts

 

[noobmuscle]

Interesting read so far, No doubt that BoBoy has this one. Upping that rep bra! Good looking out!

 

[BoBoy]

Interesting read so far, No doubt that BoBoy has this one. Upping that rep bra! Good looking out!

Thanx Noob - I hit you with one too !!

 

[Bulldog2103]

I would work with your doctor as far as steroids go , I would doubt if he would approve anything stronger than testosterone , and then only in lighter doses . Forget the Tren , too strong . Have you started Interferon yet ?? I"m not a doctor but have took care of alot of sick folks in my life , including Hep B & C . ~Bo

No interferon for me, there is a better treatment option on the horizon (daclatasvir and asunaprevir), I just hope to nurse myself there until it is fda approved and clears all the red tape. Trials are going on currently.

Talking to my dr about steroids isn't really a viable option as i'm sure it will be bad for the file should I ever need to get on a transplant list etc... Anyway, thanks for all of the feedback fellas, I'll digest it and make the best decision going forward.

 

[ryand]

No interferon for me, there is a better treatment option on the horizon (daclatasvir and asunaprevir), I just hope to nurse myself there until it is fda approved and clears all the red tape. Trials are going on currently.

Talking to my dr about steroids isn't really a viable option as i'm sure it will be bad for the file should I ever need to get on a transplant list etc... Anyway, thanks for all of the feedback fellas, I'll digest it and make the best decision going forward.

Sorry to hear about your condition bro, I wouldn't suggest using any thing hormonal either but, it's your life and your decision completely.

If you are from the united states, I would suggest talking to your doctor about steroid use. This should not effect transplant lists (alcoholics I've known haven't had an issue----in Canada, this would be an issue).

It's a privacy violation and illegal for your doctor to use your personal medical information against you or release your information (the only exception to this is if your problem is causing abuse to others--children, family, etc).

Talk to your doctor about steroid use, ask him if it would hypothetically hurt your chances for a transplant (which I'm almost certain it won't). Whatever you decide make sure you really think about it, if it was me I wouldn't being doing anything to affect my liver but...I've never experienced your situation.

Good luck bro, take care