Saliva Tests Work: My Answer!

[younggunz112]

Hey guys,

Just thought I'd post my results from a saliva test and separate blood test for total testosterone so you can see a real example of both and compare the results. These were taken only 2 weeks apart, with no change in diet, training, or sleep.

Saliva: 64pg/ml with Normal Range:44-148pg/ml: Here I'm at the bottom of the "normal range", and the paperwork does say andropause type symptoms can be noticed under 80pg/ml

Blood: 686ng/dl with Normal Range: 260-1000ng/dl!!! Looks much better!

Obviously I'm stoked to see my total test results are at a great level! This doesn't give the whole picture of course, but thought it was interesting how these two test compare! It may mean other things are causing my symptoms!

This is a pretty clear example showing that saliva tests may not be the best option to test for testosterone levels.

 

[Megatron28]

Doesn't 10pg/ml = 1ng/dl? Isn't that the conversion or is it deferent when comparing saliva to blood tests?

 

[younggunz112]

I don't think they can be compared directly in that way. Dumb statement here, but stay with me: a saliva test only shows the amount of testosterone shown in saliva. Testosterone in saliva would be significantly less than it would in blood, hence the different acceptable range, and the inability to convert it with an equation.

 

[younggunz112]

It's basically comparing apples and oranges if you try to do it mathematically. You really have to compare results relative to the acceptable ranges for saliva and blood.

Normal Testosterone levels in saliva: 44-148pg/ml

Normal Testosterone levels in blood: 260-1000ng/dl

Hope I'm helping to make that clear for everyone, cause I couldn't get it through my thick skull for a bit too!

 

[younggunz112]

Point is, perhaps the saliva test isn't that accurate after all. Finally a real life example for people to see. Something I would have loved to see before trying both myself. I figure someone else on these boards would love to see this!

 

[Megatron28]

I think they are giving you quite different results. One puts you above the mid-point of the range and the other puts you well below it.

(1000-260)/2+260=630

(148-44)/2+44=96

 

[younggunz112]

I think they are giving you quite different results. One puts you above the mid-point of the range and the other puts you well below it.

(1000-260)/2+260=630

(148-44)/2+44=96

Yep, and that's my point. The saliva was way off from what the blood work shows. Few people wonder if blood tests work, but a lot of people question if saliva tests are dependable. Here is a real life comparison I guess. Of course it would be more conclusive if I had several tests of each, but this one comparison is so far off, I would conclude that a saliva test isn't very trustworthy.