second cycle looking for some advise

[saltycracker0407]

BIO
6'0"
260lbs
bmi ?

first cycle I Ran Test E 300 2x weekly 10 weeks, 50mg Dbol daily 6 weeks, with proper pct.

got through stick points and took raised all lifting stats, built good muscle mass. still am having chiseling through some old fat deposits.

thinking about running 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 80mg clen for 2-3 cycles while waiting 8 weeks to start next cycle

looking at running 200 tren E 2x weekly for 5 weeks, with 250 test E 2x weekly for
10 weeks, 50mg dbol daily for 7 weeks with proper oc and post cycle therapy (pct). for second cycle.

would this cycle be good enough to gain more mass, harden muscle look, and cut down fat?

 

[MickeyKnox]

BIO
6'0"
260lbs
bmi ?

first cycle I Ran Test E 300 2x weekly 10 weeks, 50mg Dbol daily 6 weeks, with proper pct.

got through stick points and took raised all lifting stats, built good muscle mass. still am having chiseling through some old fat deposits.

thinking about running 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 80mg clen for 2-3 cycles while waiting 8 weeks to start next cycle

looking at running 200 tren E 2x weekly for 5 weeks, with 250 test E 2x weekly for
10 weeks, 50mg dbol daily for 7 weeks with proper oc and post cycle therapy (pct). for second cycle.

would this cycle be good enough to gain more mass, harden muscle look, and cut down fat?

No, not really.

This idea that Tren or Anavar (var) or any other compound inside a needle will reduce your BF is becoming viral here. You need to concentrate on your diet and reduce your BF. It all begins in the kitchen.

I realize you haven't included your BF% but i would hazard a guess its high. Its very difficult to carry 260lbs with low BF%. And since this is only your second cycle, i feel that your BF is likely higher than what is ideal for your height.

Pop up a photo of yourself sans head and allow us give you a solid ballpark of your BF%. At least you will be able to create a diet based upon your TDEE and BF% that will promote fat loss and lower your BF% to ideal levels in order for you to see your hard work.

 

[saltycracker0407]

most deff. starts with the eats i agree. I was at 287lbs went down to 236 and lost a lot of muscle due to high cardio and calorie deficit. i will post a pic shortly its been a while since i have figured bmi that why i am not posting, but you are correct it is Deff. higher than ideal. thats why i was thinking of running that cycle to promote mass growth and/or maintain while cutting fat. i hate losing the fat and then not being able to lift heavy due dieting losses. and looking deflated.

 

[DexterMorgan]

BIO
6'0"
260lbs
bmi ?

first cycle I Ran Test E 300 2x weekly 10 weeks, 50mg Dbol daily 6 weeks, with proper pct.

got through stick points and took raised all lifting stats, built good muscle mass. still am having chiseling through some old fat deposits.

thinking about running 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 80mg clen for 2-3 cycles while waiting 8 weeks to start next cycle

looking at running 200 tren E 2x weekly for 5 weeks, with 250 test E 2x weekly for
10 weeks, 50mg dbol daily for 7 weeks with proper oc and post cycle therapy (pct). for second cycle.

would this cycle be good enough to gain more mass, harden muscle look, and cut down fat?

I would wait few more cycle before touching Tren. Anything with Tren is a heavy cycle. Test+1 oral is a way to go, or maybe deca +test.

Are you going to use HCG and Aromatase inhibitor (AI), what about your post cycle therapy (pct)? will you donate blood to keep your RBC down?

 

[saltycracker0407]

some of that is way over my head, but this is the first i have hear needing to worry about rbc or donating blood. post cycle therapy (pct) was just going to run 20mg nolva 1st 2 weeks then 10 mg the last 2 weeks. was not considering Hcg it is an option for me however the research i have conducted has not mention these things. thank you for your response and thought it looks like i need to do some more home work on it.

 

[DexterMorgan]

some of that is way over my head, but this is the first i have hear needing to worry about rbc or donating blood. post cycle therapy (pct) was just going to run 20mg nolva 1st 2 weeks then 10 mg the last 2 weeks. was not considering Hcg it is an option for me however the research i have conducted has not mention these things. thank you for your response and thought it looks like i need to do some more home work on it.

Your post cycle therapy (pct) is very weak.
Once again, too early for tren. Try test and Anavar (var) instead.
Cycling without HCG is irresponsible, especially if want to recover successfully.

This is a great thread to read.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycle-planning-executing-successful-cycle.html



This is about blood, very important, don't allow your RBC to go highly up, thick blood is something you have to avoid.
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...-how-cycle-safely-observing-blood-counts.html