stickynote23
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Need a bit of advice on my second cycle from someone wiser than I.
Stats:
35
3 yrs 'fitness athlete focused' (climbing, running, skiing, etc)
3 yrs 'lifting/fitness focused' (lifting in winter combined with cardio, summer is limited lifting plus lots of outdoor hobbies during 4-5 summer months)
5'9"
160lbs 13-14%BF (yes I'm light, goal is to stabilize at ~180lbs @10-12%bf, any more than that and I'm going to start compromising my hobbies)
Other info:
- Goal is to build and keep ~15-20 lbs of muscle, I understand that this will likely take 3-4 cycles of disciplined work.
- Most of my activities are endurance and cardio based, so while I'm in extremely good shape, I have trouble building muscle. I devote a few months every winter to weightlifting tho
My PREVIOUS cycle (last yr):
W1-12: 400mg test-e
W1-14: 0.5mg dex E3D
W 15-18: clo @ 50/20/20/10; Nolva @ 40/20/20/10
I was happy with the intro cycle overall but I wasn't happy with the routine (while I worked out religiously I didn't do enough pure muscle-building or eat enough). My goal this time is to pack on more mass in the winter season, and have significantly adjusted eating/workout plan to fit.
Plans for NEW cycle:
W1-5: 25mg dbol
W1-12: 600mg test-e pinned 2x/week @ 300mg
W1-10: 250mg deca pinned 1x/week
W1-14: 0.5mg dex E3D
* help here* W3-14: 500mg hcg/week pinned 2x/week @ 250mg
*OR W10-14: 1000mg hcg/week pinned 2x/week @ 500mg
W15-18: 50/50/25/25 Clo
W15-18 40/20/20/20 Nolva
Questions:
1. Is this too aggressive over my previous cycle? Is the deca @ 250 not aggressive enough? (keep in mind I'm pretty light)
2. Can anyone give me any thoughts on running hcg the whole cycle vs only the 4 weeks before PCT?
3. Any thoughts on Clo/Nolva dosages?
4. While gyno wasn't a problem the first time, is there something I should have on hand this time since test-e is much higher and I'm running deca as well?
5. Additional supps confuse the hell out of me, sooo many out there. I understand the dbol is hard on my liver, should I be taking something for that. Any other specific supps?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions folks.
Stats:
35
3 yrs 'fitness athlete focused' (climbing, running, skiing, etc)
3 yrs 'lifting/fitness focused' (lifting in winter combined with cardio, summer is limited lifting plus lots of outdoor hobbies during 4-5 summer months)
5'9"
160lbs 13-14%BF (yes I'm light, goal is to stabilize at ~180lbs @10-12%bf, any more than that and I'm going to start compromising my hobbies)
Other info:
- Goal is to build and keep ~15-20 lbs of muscle, I understand that this will likely take 3-4 cycles of disciplined work.
- Most of my activities are endurance and cardio based, so while I'm in extremely good shape, I have trouble building muscle. I devote a few months every winter to weightlifting tho
My PREVIOUS cycle (last yr):
W1-12: 400mg test-e
W1-14: 0.5mg dex E3D
W 15-18: clo @ 50/20/20/10; Nolva @ 40/20/20/10
I was happy with the intro cycle overall but I wasn't happy with the routine (while I worked out religiously I didn't do enough pure muscle-building or eat enough). My goal this time is to pack on more mass in the winter season, and have significantly adjusted eating/workout plan to fit.
Plans for NEW cycle:
W1-5: 25mg dbol
W1-12: 600mg test-e pinned 2x/week @ 300mg
W1-10: 250mg deca pinned 1x/week
W1-14: 0.5mg dex E3D
* help here* W3-14: 500mg hcg/week pinned 2x/week @ 250mg
*OR W10-14: 1000mg hcg/week pinned 2x/week @ 500mg
W15-18: 50/50/25/25 Clo
W15-18 40/20/20/20 Nolva
Questions:
1. Is this too aggressive over my previous cycle? Is the deca @ 250 not aggressive enough? (keep in mind I'm pretty light)
2. Can anyone give me any thoughts on running hcg the whole cycle vs only the 4 weeks before PCT?
3. Any thoughts on Clo/Nolva dosages?
4. While gyno wasn't a problem the first time, is there something I should have on hand this time since test-e is much higher and I'm running deca as well?
5. Additional supps confuse the hell out of me, sooo many out there. I understand the dbol is hard on my liver, should I be taking something for that. Any other specific supps?
Thanks in advance for any suggestions folks.