Sex and Booze

Schweddy

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The wife and I did two a day yesterday I had a bout 3/4 of a bottle of wine and today I feel completely wiped out. Why is is that sex and booze decrease one's T levels? Could somebody share with me why this is? I mean, what is the process for decreasing the testosterone levels?
 
I know alcohol icreases aromatization but what is the process? I know alcohol inhibits the Leydig cells from creating more testosterone - but if your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) your not making any natural testosterone anyway, right?

As for the nookie, does sex "use up" one's available testosterone? I am in terested ion the process here. If anyone can shed light, please do. No luck on PubMed.

I'm curious because I sometimes feel a NOTICEABLY worse after lovin or booze or vigorous exercise. For example, I injected 120 ML T on Sat am for my 7 day protocol. Later that day I ran 12 miles at a pretty fast clip. I feel like I've been dragiin ass all week. Brain fog to boot. I'd like to learn how to deal with this (i.e adjusting my shots) to deal with my training scheule and horny wife.
 
sounds like you may have other issues such as high estrogen. Alcohol helps aroma like said but one bottle of wine and knocking it out twice shouldnt put you on your ace. On testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) or no testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) I dont know many guys that are wiped out after nookie twice in a day. Sure if your older, drink a lot and hit it hard I would guess you could be tired, but i would attribute that to the strenous work and being older more than the sex its self doing something. And I dont think sex uses up test like that or any time period, I dont think it really works like gas in your car per say. I wouldnt worry about it to much, if you feel like crap theres probably something else going on, or the alcohol does not agree with you and that would be the same way without being on TRT. Test is test whether its natural or not, your body uses and disposes it the same way, so I dont think something crazy is going just because you are on test.
 
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This is not a hangover. Symptoms are primarily brain fog and lethargy - my pre testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) symptoms. I suspect my estrogen has spiked. My theory is that my heavy cardio workout is the primary cause. I don't drink much but I can kill a bottle of wine and be fine the next day.

The double dose of lovin' got on my radar because of the posts here about spankin' it before your blood test to lower your levels (still don't know why this would effect T levels). I have a blood test scheduled for next week and will report back.
 
This is not a hangover. Symptoms are primarily brain fog and lethargy - my pre testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) symptoms. I suspect my estrogen has spiked. My theory is that my heavy cardio workout is the primary cause. I don't drink much but I can kill a bottle of wine and be fine the next day.

The double dose of lovin' got on my radar because of the posts here about spankin' it before your blood test to lower your levels (still don't know why this would effect T levels). I have a blood test scheduled for next week and will report back.

Are you taking an AI? High estradiol symptoms mimic low testosterone ones, so that would be my guess. AFAIK the whole having sex/masturbation decreasing test levels is broscience at it's best. It probably comes from fighters abstaining from sex to make them "meaner". I looked for studies regarding that too awhile ago and wasn't able to find much either. (I doubt it would matter anyway as you're on exogenous testosterone.)
 
One thing to think about is alcohol does make on react differently to it as years go by. I can tell you at 30 the difference on how alcohol affects me than when I was 21 is pretty profound. Mainly in recovery not necessarily while Im drinking it. I would throw out having sex lowering your t levels, thats myth buster stuff. But the alcohol could very well be spiking your E, which is something you may just have a choice, either drink and deal with it or not drink. but like said it should be no different than when you werent on T, testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is not going to make you act differently while on booze. Other things is maybe try a different wine, or different kind of alcohol such as beer or liquor. You may also be dehydrated.

I used to drink miller lite, but one day it gave me a splitting headache after half a beer, and still does if I drink it, so I dont drink it anymore. This is due to be allergic to certain kinds of yeast. Kind of blew my mind but I looked it up, people can gain or have an allergy on certain beer because of the yeast, and maybe the wine is the same way.
 
Anyone think my distance running is to blame? I may just be wiped out from a hard effort. I am so much stronger and faster than a year ago I bet I over did it.
 
its all in your head youre creating your own symptoms, the body will actually produce physiological effects if you think theyre there. No sex and booze will not do that to u, maybe something IS wrong, and youre trying to self diagnose and automatically blamed Low T and pre testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) symptoms
 
its all in your head youre creating your own symptoms, the body will actually produce physiological effects if you think theyre there. No sex and booze will not do that to u, maybe something IS wrong, and youre trying to self diagnose and automatically blamed Low T and pre testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) symptoms
The mind is a powerful thing, that's for sure. Don't know how many times I've felt fine, only to get a blood test and freak out when I see E2 levels THEN start to notice the symptoms! LOL
 
One week is too short to tell. You could have caught a cold or be dragging for some other reason. Not everything is hormones.
 
Schweddy, how old are u? Alcohol is a toxin and your ability to process it diminishes with age. If you're younger, I.e under 50 and in a fog with little alcohol. Have you had a recent check on kidney function? I'm 52 and in the last two years have seen a change in my ability to metabolize alcohol. Was told, it is just, "age" which really did not answer the "how" behind the change.
 
Get a blood test. Then run 12 miles and tap your girl's ass twice. Hit it hard. Do it a third time for good measure. Drink a bottle of wine. Then get another blood test. Be scientific about this and see if that activity changes your hormones. Why guess and conjecture when there is a lab right down the street? Of course, you will have to do the same blood tests without the sex and running and wine to get a baseline for comparison.

If you need one of the guys on the forum to stop by and take care of your wife's needs during the abstinence phase of your experiment just say the word. I am sure someone can help accommodate her needs. We're here for you guys. :-)
 
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Anyone think my distance running is to blame? I may just be wiped out from a hard effort. I am so much stronger and faster than a year ago I bet I over did it.

check your hematocrit levels. brain fog and lethargy/fatigue classic symptoms of thickened blood.. endurance or explosive cardio training along with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) is notorious for making your blood like syrup.. how is your bp?
 
Hematocrit may be the culprit. I am a little red faced. I will have bloods next week. I haven't donated blood since I needed beer money in college.
 
Tests in and all looks good. It's all in my head.

Testosterone: 566 ng/dL (348-1197)
Estradiol: 23.3 pg/mL (7.6-42.6) This is down from low 40's to low 50's on the last 2 tests. Don't know why???

Hematocrit in range.

MCH was a tad high: 33.5 pg (26.6-33.0)

I suspect I may have had some dopamine withdrawal from the long run plus the sex and booze. My brain just needed more?

I feel much better the last 3 days.
 
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