should i have sex with my roommate

[halfwit]

she didnt ask me to move on. she basically said "just cause im a girl and i live with you doesnt make me your toy you play with when you're drunk". then she went on to say "if we're gonna keep doing this i dont want it to be casual". so fuck that. im not gonna dive head first not only into a relationship but into a relationship with a girl i live with. im too young and handsome for this shit

I think you misread what I typed. I said why do you think she asked you to move IN. Women aren't careless like that, and if she wasn't open to the possibility of a relationship - she wouldn't have asked you to live with her; unless she thought you were gay.

My point is that you now either give her what she wants to get what you want, or accept you won't be hitting that until she wants to exercise her control over you. The mind is strong, but not when Mr Happy is awake - we go pretty dumb at that point.

famous last words.....

Exactly lol.

 

[ImAuNatural]

she didnt ask me to move on. she basically said "just cause im a girl and i live with you doesnt make me your toy you play with when you're drunk". then she went on to say "if we're gonna keep doing this i dont want it to be casual". so fuck that. im not gonna dive head first not only into a relationship but into a relationship with a girl i live with. im too young and handsome for this shit

Just tell her "Im sorry but im just not looking for a long term commitment right now"

Then you don't have to worry about shit. She isn't the only girl out there, if its so complicated you have to think this much about it then quit wasting your time, like you said you're young and you're only getting older so go smash some girls who you wont have to live with and see everyday if things don't work out.

If you do date this girl just to get some pussy then that's lame IMO. You shouldn't lead her on fro one and for two if its no good or if you guys break up shit will be really awkward then when you get a new girlfriend try explaining to her how you had sex with your roommate and she is also your ex and see how long that relationship will last.

My point is, don't do it unless she wants to do it with no strings attached. Weigh the Pro's and Con's.

 

[Southernfish]

Ive just skimmed through the last lil bit of this. But, do you actually like this girl? Or is she just hot and you want to hit it?

Aside from my partially sarcastic comment earlier, you must be VARY careful with females in that age group. Sure, some of them are just DTF but I would say the majority, once you sleep with them, are going to latch right on to you. that's how they work. Females want to have sex with someone they either feel they have or feel they could have an emotional attachment with. Men are not the same.

'Females need a reason, Males need a place'

You live with this girl and I am a firm believer in not shitting where you eat. Now, with that said if this girl is cool and someone youd want to be around and hangout with and all that then go for it but remember its most likely going to turn into a relationship at some point as one person ALWAYS gets attached ALWAYS or it could turn into a fucking nightmare, clingon situation.

Say you sleep with her and then she wants more and you don't, how are you supposed to bring a new girl home without it being awkward and kinda of disrespectful to be honest. Now lets say you sleep with her and you all of a sudden want more but she doesn't and SHE brings another guy home, hows that gonna feel? That gonna be pretty shitty either way.

Don't just sleep with her and think there wont be any consequences. Whether they be good or bad.

If I was in your shoes, Id play it cool....hangout with with this girl, go out, party, whatever you do.....as friends and just see what happens that way provides you with a win win situation. The first win being that youll end up with a cool chick friend the second win is you end up with a cool girlfriend who you got to know in the process and someone to sleep with on the reg.

Don't rush into making a decision on anything. Rushing will result in failure most always.

 

[Megatron28]

You already messed around with her. Like it or not you can't unring that bell. You are fucked. If you turn her down at this point she will be pissed. So if you were smart - and understood Game Theory -- you would see that the optimal course of action now is to pretend to be her boyfriend and get some benefit out of this situation. Work on finding a new place to live in the meantime behind the scenes. It either ends in e two of you in a long-term relationship or you packing your stuff up. Question is how long?

 

[ImAuNatural]

You already messed around with her. Like it or not you can't unring that bell. You are fucked. If you turn her down at this point she will be pissed. So if you were smart - and understood Game Theory -- you would see that the optimal course of action now is to pretend to be her boyfriend and get some benefit out of this situation. Work on finding a new place to live in the meantime behind the scenes. It either ends in e two of you in a long-term relationship or you packing your stuff up. Question is how long?

I think he could easily explain to her. Apologize and tell her that you are sorry that you find her very attractive and that she is an awesome girl but you just don't want to be in a relationship with anyone right now. Tell her that you were just tempted because she is cute or something and that you will try not to let it happen again, then just lay low and be nice but don't overstep your boundaries and don't flirt with her anymore etc.

I would think this would be an easier solution than to date her and then risk it not working and trying to find a new place to live and ruining a friendship etc.

 

[Mad- scientist]

Yeah the OP is in to deep to turn around now. If i were you I would just be her boyfriend and save some cash to get a different place then say things aren't working and leave. Or go live with some one else. If you have no other place to stay and its between you being homeless or banging a hot girl to have a place to stay the answer should be obvious.

 

[Megatron28]

I think he could easily explain to her. Apologize and tell her that you are sorry that you find her very attractive and that she is an awesome girl but you just don't want to be in a relationship with anyone right now. Tell her that you were just tempted because she is cute or something and that you will try not to let it happen again, then just lay low and be nice but don't overstep your boundaries and don't flirt with her anymore etc.

I would think this would be an easier solution than to date her and then risk it not working and trying to find a new place to live and ruining a friendship etc.

Yeah... because a 19 year old girl that just let you feel her boobies and grind on her and who told you she wants a relationship will be rationale about rejection and move on. No issues at all when she sees you with another girl.

 

[ImAuNatural]

Yeah... because a 19 year old girl that just let you feel her boobies and grind on her and who told you she wants a relationship will be rationale about rejection and move on. No issues at all when she sees you with another girl.

I mean she might be upset but shes 19 she isn't in middle school or high school and if she lives on her own hopefully she is mature. I'm 21 and most 19 year old girls I know are mature enough to understand but its all up to him we really don't know enough about the girl or the situation honestly.

I'm just saying he shouldn't get into a relationship unless he is really sure that's what he wants otherwise he is just using the girl and leading her on which isn't a good thing to do. there's a chance they could still just be friends and he can stay there still, or at the least they might be friends and he has to move out. If he still wants to remain friend she shouldn't date her.

And in my last post I said to law low as in don't talk about other girls or bring them over.

All I'm saying is its obvious OP doesn't want to date her or he would be already.

 

[halfwit]

I mean she might be upset but shes 19 she isn't in middle school or high school and if she lives on her own hopefully she is mature. I'm 21 and most 19 year old girls I know are mature enough to understand but its all up to him we really don't know enough about the girl or the situation honestly.

I'm just saying he shouldn't get into a relationship unless he is really sure that's what he wants otherwise he is just using the girl and leading her on which isn't a good thing to do. there's a chance they could still just be friends and he can stay there still, or at the least they might be friends and he has to move out. If he still wants to remain friend she shouldn't date her.

And in my last post I said to law low as in don't talk about other girls or bring them over.

All I'm saying is its obvious OP doesn't want to date her or he would be already.

It's obvious that you haven't caught onto the fact that ALL women are shit nuts. She wants a boyfriend, he wants easy sex, and a place to live. It's actually good for her to learn early on that we men will do what we have to in order to get our dicks wet.

I know, it sounds terrible to trick a young lady into consensual sex by acting the role she desires, but that's just the way the world works.

Be a nice guy.

OR

Get laid, a lot - by multiple women.

You can't have it both ways, sorry.

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

To add to HW's post, there are only 2 realistic scenarios where you can remain "friends" with a hot girl:

- You hit on her, failed, dropped into the friend zone and have remained in there ever since due to your refusal to move the fuck on.
- Your gay.

 

[ImAuNatural]

It's obvious that you haven't caught onto the fact that ALL women are shit nuts. She wants a boyfriend, he wants easy sex, and a place to live. It's actually good for her to learn early on that we men will do what we have to in order to get our dicks wet.

I know, it sounds terrible to trick a young lady into consensual sex by acting the role she desires, but that's just the way the world works.

Be a nice guy.

OR

Get laid, a lot - by multiple women.

You can't have it both ways, sorry.

Wait so all women are crazy? Damn. I thought it was just my girlfriend? lmao

I agree with you actually, I haven't been single in a while so i think I'm turning into a nice guy, plus I was cheated on a year ago and that shit still hurts pretty much everyday. So now I don't really agree with cheating or leading someone on, it may sound cheesy and not BRO-ish or whatever but that shit can really fuck someone up if they care about you enough.

But before my girlfriend I would have definitely just dated the girl had a lot of sex and a place to stay and to be honest i would've still had other girls on the side.

 

[halfwit]

Wait so all women are crazy? Damn. I thought it was just my girlfriend? lmao

I agree with you actually, I haven't been single in a while so i think I'm turning into a nice guy, plus I was cheated on a year ago and that shit still hurts pretty much everyday. So now I don't really agree with cheating or leading someone on, it may sound cheesy and not BRO-ish or whatever but that shit can really fuck someone up if they care about you enough.

But before my girlfriend I would have definitely just dated the girl had a lot of sex and a place to stay and to be honest i would've still had other girls on the side.

Oh, it gets worse too. The hotter they are, usually the MORE crazy they are.

Yeah, it does suck to get shit on, but I'd rather have it done and over with in my youth, than when older - and the consequences are much greater. Even then, there are ZERO guarantees that your wife/gf won't suddenly slip, trip, and land on some dude's dick. It doesn't matter how good you treat them, or if you're an AMAZING person. People just do dumb shit in general.

 

[e92]

this whole thread makes me realize how fucked i am. now i'm too scared to do anything with her bros i'm already saved in her phone as "my love" how did this even happen? i was wondering why she was being so nice to me by letting me move in cause the bitch barely knows me. who the fuck knows whats going on in that little head of hers.

but see.. the more i get to know her.. the less i want anything with her.

 

[Megatron28]

I have to question your level of game man.

I think Zilla summed it up pretty well.

 

[cybrsage]

To add to HW's post, there are only 2 realistic scenarios where you can remain "friends" with a hot girl:

- You hit on her, failed, dropped into the friend zone and have remained in there ever since due to your refusal to move the fuck on.
- Your gay.

There is a caveat to the first one. If you are stuck in the friend zone and she actually REALLY likes you as a friend, she can be a catalyst to scoring with her friends. Hot women tend to hang out with other hot women. You would have to play up the friend card a bit, telling her you are having trouble with the ladies, asking her advice (since she is a lady after all), slowly move into asking her about her friends, etc. If she thinks you are a good guy, she might not have a problem with you banging one of her friends. Of course, all this is very age dependent.

Also, in full disclosure, I have been out of the dating scene for decades so things could have vastly changed. Been married for closing in on 30 years now.

 

[Southernfish]

Wait so all women are crazy? Damn. I thought it was just my girlfriend? lmao

I agree with you actually, I haven't been single in a while so i think I'm turning into a nice guy, plus I was cheated on a year ago and that shit still hurts pretty much everyday. So now I don't really agree with cheating or leading someone on, it may sound cheesy and not BRO-ish or whatever but that shit can really fuck someone up if they care about you enough.

But before my girlfriend I would have definitely just dated the girl had a lot of sex and a place to stay and to be honest i would've still had other girls on the side.

Nice is ok. Too nice is not though. Never put a girl above you or make her feel like your a pushover because she walk all over and use you.

Respect them of course but dont make them feel like a godess

 

[Mrrippedzilla]

There is a caveat to the first one. If you are stuck in the friend zone and she actually REALLY likes you as a friend, she can be a catalyst to scoring with her friends. Hot women tend to hang out with other hot women. You would have to play up the friend card a bit, telling her you are having trouble with the ladies, asking her advice (since she is a lady after all), slowly move into asking her about her friends, etc. If she thinks you are a good guy, she might not have a problem with you banging one of her friends. Of course, all this is very age dependent.

Also, in full disclosure, I have been out of the dating scene for decades so things could have vastly changed. Been married for closing in on 30 years now.

IME the minute you start hitting on a girl's friends, and they are into you, you immediately become attractive to the original girl too - friend zone or not.
You could use the situation to not only bang her friends but take advantage of the jealous and bang her too but, again, depends on how advanced your game is. Most guys would mess this up badly.

 

[halfwit]

Nice is ok. Too nice is not though. Never put a girl above you or make her feel like your a pushover because she walk all over and use you.

Respect them of course but dont make them feel like a godess

Actually, if it's just ass one is after, treating them like shit works better. It's weird, but psychologically women want to earn the praise and respect from someone that is often mean to them. That's why I always tell young guys to save the special treatment for when they're married/have found the one they want to marry. Even then, you have to ease into it, or they lose respect for you.

Zilla knows exactly what the score is. It definitely works, but is crazy sensitive to small mistakes. Women that lose a strong friendship to be with you may not be very forgiving - and absolutely will cock block you within their sphere of influence.

 

[ImAuNatural]

Bottom line is women in general are too damn complicated to figure out, obviously judging by this thread.

OP you're probably fucked, unless a rocket scientist comes into this thread and finds a solution for your problem, the average man will never figure out how women work.

I would probably just go ahead and fuck her and live with her for as long as you can, unless you could see yourself marrying this girl down the road then i would start looking for alternative housing ASAP. But in the meantime enjoy the pussy and the roof over your head.

 

[e92]

thought i'd update my fellow bros. so today i wake up to a message of her saying "turns out my old roommate is coming back coming tomorrow or saturday..."

it was fun while it lasted.