I'm about to start my first ( I'm going to run 250mg of Test E as well as 250 mg of Deca) 10 week cycle. I was planning on running nolva as my post cycle therapy (pct), but I was curious as to whether or not I should use it during my cycle as an anti-estrogen. Since I've never used gear before I do not know how susceptible I am to gyno. Any advice would be appreciated.
Should I use an anti-estrogen the whole time?
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zephyrdaz
Grumpy old Git
Firstly you shouldn't be running Test and Deca for a first cycle, and what you are planning on doing is too low anyway, also I'd say you need to do a min of 12 weeks. I would seriously ask you to reconsider what you are planning.
In answer to your question, no, do not run any anti-estrogens during your cycle. Only start if you get problems.
How old are you and what are your stats?
In answer to your question, no, do not run any anti-estrogens during your cycle. Only start if you get problems.
How old are you and what are your stats?
JayC
..in the making
Stat's please???
1) I wouldn't run an anti-estrogen but I WOULD run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (anti-aromatase) the entire cycle. Something less hash like Aromasin or AIFM would be best.
2) If it's your first cycle, I'd drop the Deca and just run the Test E at 400-500/week.
3) post cycle therapy (pct) your choice, Nolva or Clomid (50mg/daily is fine for clomid).
I'm 24, 6' 248lbs at 17% bodyfat. I posted on here a month ago and was advised to drop my bf ( I was at 265 w/ 20% bodyfat ). I initally wanted to run just straight EQ for my first cycle, but my source ( a guy whose opinion i really trust) told me i should run Test E and Deca at fairly low doses for 10 weeks as he has had really good results doing that. What's the difference of a 12 week cycle versus a ten week? Also, is it possible for me to get Nolvadex legally? Or do I need to pursue other methods?
JayC
..in the making
I'm not trying to flame here bro but no, you don't need to run Nolvadex your entire cycle.. in this day and age, that is just out dated info. An Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like Aromasin or ATD (AIFM) is what you want to run for bloat, water, and prevention of high estro levels.
JayC
..in the making
Test will work just fine for that.. Var has given me great vascularity as well but save that for your second cycle.
Good job on losing some BF before starting but still, you don't need the deca bro.. Up the test a bit and run it alone. 10 or 12 weeks, not much difference just prefrence.
StoneColdNTO
Administrator
What does size have to do with running a SERM ????
You do know that taking Nolvadex with Deca is more likely to increase the likelyhood of developing gyno ??
You are suggesting he run 400mg/week of Deca with 250mg/week of Testosterone for his FIRST cycle......not very good advice bro !!
....and lastly, he's better off using HCG throughout the cycle and not during PCT.
Italiano §PÖ
Il Padrino
TEST only for a first cycle dude and stretch it to 12 weeks. Personally I don't see the need to run Nolva alongside your cycle but simply have it on hand. You definitely want to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle. I'm partial to Aromasin but many say AIFM works very well for them. As SC says below, Nolva will aggravate gyno if the gyno is being caused by the Deca. Since it's a first cycle, see how you react to the TEST first before stacking compounds. If you immediately jump in and stack compounds, you won't know which one is causing the sides you experience, if any. Hopefully this helps a bit. As a first time user, you'll be pleased with the results you get from a TEST only cycle. Just make sure your diet and training are in check.
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