Shoulder injection is this true

[adie1981]

Ok so I'm wanting to avoid jabbing the legs as much as possible, rotating between shoulders,glutes when I start the cycle,But my guy has said today if I Wana jab shoulders I need to do a jab in both shoulders of the same dosage so I'm not unbalanced when it comes to training in the gym n doing shoulders. (TEST E ONLY CYCLE)

For example
Test E - 250mg right shoulder/250mg left shoulder twice a week putting 1g of test in my body a week.

This is my first cycle. Can anyone give me some advice on this as I intended on 500mg/week split in two, is this true regarding shoulders?

Cheers

 

[3J]

thats nonsense... its a depot.. its not a spot injection..

the guy at the gym is an idiot.. its not test suspension youre injecting, or tne right??

if its a longer acting ester it doesn't matter

 

[Megatron28]

I think you need a new guy.

 

[clman8585]

Ok so I'm wanting to avoid jabbing the legs as much as possible, rotating between shoulders,glutes when I start the cycle,But my guy has said today if I Wana jab shoulders I need to do a jab in both shoulders of the same dosage so I'm not unbalanced when it comes to training in the gym n doing shoulders. (TEST E ONLY CYCLE)

For example
Test E - 250mg right shoulder/250mg left shoulder twice a week putting 1g of test in my body a week.

This is my first cycle. Can anyone give me some advice on this as I intended on 500mg/week split in two, is this true regarding shoulders?

Cheers

rediculous. Dont take any more advice from that guy

 

[halfwit]

Maybe if there is synthol in that there vial.

 

[prank]

Its just the same as injecting any place. I split my shoulder shot just so they both feel the same I hate when one hurts and one not

 

[Havasu]

Uhhh, no that is not true with Test E. Also, if this guy helped you plan your cycle I hope there is more involved than just Test E. Like an aromatase inhibitor, so you don't grow moobs, and HCG to keep your family jewels awake and fertile, and also a planned PCT with Tamoxifen and Clomid.

 

[Megatron28]

Uhhh, no that is not true with Test E. Also, if this guy helped you plan your cycle I hope there is more involved than just Test E. Like an aromatase inhibitor, so you don't grow moobs, and HCG to keep your family jewels awake and fertile, and also a planned PCT with Tamoxifen and Clomid.

Moobs is gainz bro.

 

[adie1981]

Perhaps it was advice so I bought more test e off him ***128514; anyway I appreciate the feedback.

Nooo this is my first ever test cycle and I'll be doing the following

Blood work in Manchester 2 weeks before I start my cycle then blood work after my cycle.

1.Test E - 10 weeks 500mg/week (wish I could do less to start with)
2. Hcg - potentially for the last 4 weeks of the cycle?
3.nolva or aromasin on hand incase of any issues or bloating,which is going to be the best?
4. Pct - clomid and tamoxifen
5. Week 6-10 - 50mg winstrol ED

Mates have had hcg and they didn't jab it every week,I'm open to suggestions though

Thanks

 

[Megatron28]

Here is a good place to get you started on putting together a first cycle.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

[adie1981]

Here is a good place to get you started on putting together a first cycle.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

Cracking read that mate. And that's now made my mind up regarding pct and hcg. So after reading through that my cycle will look like this

1. Blood work 2 weeks before cycle
2. Test E only - week 1-10 500mg/week
3. Winny 50mg ed - week 6-10
4. Blood work mid cycle
5. Pct - clomid & nolva
6. Hcg after pct cycle
7. Post cycle blood work
8. Have spare tamoxifen on hand for mid cycle issues.

Supplements during and post cycle

NAC
Glucosamine
Omega 3 fish oil
Taurine
MyProtein hurricane xs protein
Animal pak

I'm also now considering whether it's worth injecting the glutes now I know it needs to be an SQ injection, And the fact that you don't need to do the aspiration on the shoulders,quads and triceps is good news as it'll reduce jabbing time and Potentially reducing jabbing pain.

Also cheers for the heads up lads regarding jabbing the shoulders

Anything else you can think of I have missed please let me know.

Cheers

 

[Megatron28]

Cracking read that mate. And that's now made my mind up regarding pct and hcg. So after reading through that my cycle will look like this

1. Blood work 2 weeks before cycle
2. Test E only - week 1-10 500mg/week
3. Winny 50mg ed - week 6-10
4. Blood work mid cycle
5. Pct - clomid & nolva
6. Hcg after pct cycle
7. Post cycle blood work
8. Have spare tamoxifen on hand for mid cycle issues.

Supplements during and post cycle

NAC
Glucosamine
Omega 3 fish oil
Taurine
MyProtein hurricane xs protein
Animal pak

I'm also now considering whether it's worth injecting the glutes now I know it needs to be an SQ injection, And the fact that you don't need to do the aspiration on the shoulders,quads and triceps is good news as it'll reduce jabbing time and Potentially reducing jabbing pain.

Also cheers for the heads up lads regarding jabbing the shoulders

Anything else you can think of I have missed please let me know.

Cheers

Whoa! What's the deal with #6? I would drop #3 as well considering this is a first cycle and I am guessing you like/need your joints.

When you talk about subq, are you referring to the hCG? The test should be injected IM. hCG can be IM as well if you like.

You have no mention of an Aromatase Inhibitor. Any reason for that?

 

[cybrsage]

Winny is great, so I have read, but not for a first cycle. Do Test only for a first cycle so you can learn how your body reacts to it. You will learn how to control your E2 level what on high test, etc. The NEXT cycle you can add another compound. Then, if you have some bad sides, you will know it is the new compound doing and find out how to counter it.

 

[adie1981]

Whoa! What's the deal with #6? I would drop #3 as well considering this is a first cycle and I am guessing you like/need your joints.

When you talk about subq, are you referring to the hCG? The test should be injected IM. hCG can be IM as well if you like.

You have no mention of an Aromatase Inhibitor. Any reason for that?

1.What do you mean what's the deal with #6????
2.Ok advice taken on board regarding #3 I'll stick to test E only for this cycle.
3.Yes I'll have aromatise on hand, if that's how you spell it.
4.no I mean injecting the test in the glutes has to be done by subq rather than IM due to the amount of nerves and sciatic nerve in the glutes so the subq needle won't go deep in the glute...anyway this is the link I got from this site have a look regarding the subq and Im in the glute.

http://www.nnpnetwork.org/Uploads/EBP aspiration poster 9 25 12 for iowa .pdf

 

[Megatron28]

I mean why would you run hCG after you complete PCT?

You can do IM injections in the glutes. Guys do them all the time. Go to www.spotinjections.com.

 

[PresTex]

1.What do you mean what's the deal with #6????
2.Ok advice taken on board regarding #3 I'll stick to test E only for this cycle.
3.Yes I'll have aromatise on hand, if that's how you spell it.
4.no I mean injecting the test in the glutes has to be done by subq rather than IM due to the amount of nerves and sciatic nerve in the glutes so the subq needle won't go deep in the glute...anyway this is the link I got from this site have a look regarding the subq and Im in the glute.

http://www.nnpnetwork.org/Uploads/EBP aspiration poster 9 25 12 for iowa .pdf

He's wondering why you put HCG after PCT. HCG is suppressive to natural production so using it in your PCT or after is counterproductive. If you aren't going to run HCG throughout your cycle I would run it the last few weeks at like 500-1000iu/wk (7-10).

Might help to elaborate on your aromatase inhibitor. Which do you have? What dosing protocol are you planning? Controlling e2 can be tricky and is one of the more important parts of a test cycle.

To address your question on injecting in the glutes, no you do not need to inject subq in the glutes. Ventroglutes are one of the best spots to inject as there is quite a bit of muscle mass in this area and if you're doing it right there is little risk of hitting a nerve. You CAN inject subj but most don't, especially with high volume injections as it can lead to a lot of discomfort as it often results in redness, soreness, and lumps under the skin. Some trt guys can get away with it as they are injecting small amounts. If you need instruction on where to inject check out spotinjections.com.


Damn. Mega beat me to it.

 

[adie1981]

My bad lads I misread megatrons link regarding first cycle on the link below, I thought it said run after pct,but in fact it says don't do hcg whilst on pct. so I'll do the hcg back end of my cycle.this link has been brilliant for me to understand stuff.

My only other question really is regarding dosage amount per week, what's the absolute minimum I can inject a week to still benefit, I'm not looking to get too big so my diet will be set to accommodate this with the test.
I mean would 250mg per week and a great diet and gym programme benefit me or does it need to be 500mg, just don't fancy getting too big.

The link megatron gave us below, thanks

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

 

[halfwit]

My bad lads I misread megatrons link regarding first cycle on the link below, I thought it said run after pct,but in fact it says don't do hcg whilst on pct. so I'll do the hcg back end of my cycle.this link has been brilliant for me to understand stuff.

My only other question really is regarding dosage amount per week, what's the absolute minimum I can inject a week to still benefit, I'm not looking to get too big so my diet will be set to accommodate this with the test.
I mean would 250mg per week and a great diet and gym programme benefit me or does it need to be 500mg, just don't fancy getting too big.

The link megatron gave us below, thanks

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html

HCG is during your cycle, not after or during PCT.

When I have women ask me for tips or help in the gym, know what the most common worry is?

"I don't want to get too big/bulky, this won't do that - right..?"

Sadly, I've been reading that here all too often. You have to EAT/TRAIN/SUPPLEMENT to get huge. You don't just put a needle in your butt, and wake up 75lbs heavier - you have to work for it, INTENTIONALLY.

Not picking on you specifically, but I hear this fallacy WAY too often. I'd stick with 500mg/wk as that is a dose that will allow you to judge whether or not AAS is for you, and should provide benefits with few side effects.

My .02c

 

[bigben66]

My answer is usually... "Get on the train to Hugeville, you can always jump off at Tonedville half way there!"

 

[Mprtz]

Back in the misc.fitness.weights days, the meme was: "I don't want to get huge, I just want to look like Brad Pitt in Fight Club".