slin question

[ld50]

I have been researching slin and need some clarification. If the general concensus is to consume 10g carbs per iu of slin, and you are doing 10iu slin post workout, that obviously works out to be 100g of dextrose.

My question is this. If I am already consuming that amount of dextrose in my post w/o shake, then what would adding the 10iu of exogenous slin do for me? Am I not already going to have my own natural slin spike?

Now I know that with hgh you need to have more slin, but where does the body fall short? If you are consuming high GI carbs, are you not going to produce enough slin to take care of blood glucose levels?

I am looking to bridge with growth and slin, but want a better understanding of why I would need the slin.

Thank you

 

[DTOX]

Used with hGH it causes an increase in IGF-1...which I believe is the main reason for using insulin + hGH post-workout.

Aside from that, insulin is what "shoves" amino acids (protein) into muscle tissue.

Also, if you start messing with insulin, start low!!! I'd recommend starting with 1 or 2 IU and then seeing how your body reacts. Better than starting with 10 IU and then ending up in a coma or dead.

 

[ld50]

I still would like to know what exogenous slin is going to do for me that my own slin won't.

 

[elijah_123]

The extra slin has a longer life. The insulin spike from 10g of simple high gi carbs is greater than injecting 10 IU of Humalog or Hum-R but the duration is much much shorter.

 

[ld50]

Ok, so if the exogenous slin is longer lasting, then I will need to consume more carbs to avoid hypoglycemia and so on, but then why couldn't I just have another high GI meal to instigate another slin spike?

It seems as though we are putting the cart before the horse: add slin, then cover your ass with carbs, as apposed to eating carbs, then secreting slin to lower blood glucose levels.

Are you saying that our own slin spike, though stronger, is too short and therefore not taking care of blood glucose levels? because if that was the case, it would be similar to Type II diabetes. That would mean that we are pumping out slin, but glucose levels are remaining high or not being taken care of.

 

[DTOX]

Your body will also self-regulate insulin levels to a certain extent I believe. So even if you eat 100g of dextrose after you've injected your insulin, the body isn't going to release as much natural insulin as it otherwise would.

 

[ld50]

bump for more info on why exogenous slin is more anabolic than natural slin spike.

 

[ld50]

bump. c'mon guys.

 

[bleachcola]

Nobody knows bro. There's alot of speculation, but no definitive answer. I posed this same question to Nandi12 awhile ago and he's still trying to figure it out. And if Nandi12 doesn't know, then only God can tell us at this point.

 

[ld50]

this was the answer I've been looking for:

Humalog
Synopsis Diabetes occurs when the human body’s pancreas does not make enough insulin to break down food in the body, especially sugar. Humalog is a fast acting, short duration insulin analogue. Humalog is taken before meals to take fast action on the increased levels of glucose.
Developer/Manufacturer Eli Lilly
Marketer Eli Lilly
Chemical Name insulin lispro
Indication Diabetes mellitus
Drug Category Recombinant hormone
Pharmacology The structure of Humalog allows for a rate of absorption much higher than that of regular human insulin. It will have a much more rapid effect and shorter period of duration. . Through the administration of Humalog, the body will temporarily regain its ability to metabolize carbohydrates, fats, and proteins, to store glycogen in the liver and to convert glucose into fat.
Dosage Humulog is different from other forms of human insulin in that it has a rapid onset of action. Humalog is given through intravenous injection, and should be administered at about 15 minutes before or immediately after eating. Dosage is dependent upon the patient, however Humalog comes in both 1.5 mL and 3.0 mL cartridges.
Precautions/Side Effects One major side effect of taking insulin is the development of hypoglycemia, or too little glucose in the blood. This may be a cause of eating habits, taking too much insulin, or over exercising. Local allergies reported have included redness, swelling, and itching at the site of the injection. Systematic allergy, related to the general allergy towards insulin may show symptoms of whole body rash, shortness of breath, wheezing, reduction in blood pressure, increased pulse, or sweating.
Approved FDA and European Union in 1996
Molecular Structure Human insulin is a polypeptide hormone consisting of a 21 amino acid A-chain and a 30 amino acid B-chain linked by two disulphide bonds. Humalog is a from of human insulin in which the proline-lysine sequences at positions 28 and 29 have been reversed. Due to the greater rate of absorption after administration, liprolog will have a much faster onset and shorter duration.
Cell Line E. coli
Manufacturer Link www.lilly.com

 

[bleachcola]

Humalog is given through intravenous injection, and should be administered at about 15 minutes before or immediately after eating.

What diabetic mainlines insulin? Insulin is injected subq. The only time you would use a intravenous injection is in the case of someone battling severe hyperglycemia. Then a doc would set up an IV drip.