Solid second cycle.. Advice much appreciated!!!

[fontazya]

Hey guys I was looking to start my second cycle in about 6 weeks and wanted some support and any ideas/improvements that I could make.. My stats are as follows.. 25 yrs old, 6ft tall, about 200lbs and about 14% bf.. ive only ever done one cycle in the past about 1 year ago and that was test enanthate 10 weeks at 500mg/week. Made some very nice gains about 17lbs.. Wanted to improve this year and do better.. So after much reseasrch im looking at a cycle as follows:

Weeks 1-15- Test enanthate 500mg/week
Weeks 1-14- Equipoise 600mg/week
Weeks 1-4- Dbol 40mgs/day

HCG 500IU everyday starting first day after last test shot. Continue this for 10 days (5000IU total) which will end exactly 4 days before i start my nolvadex treatment..
PCT- (14 days after last test shot and 4 days after HCG) weeks 18-21- Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

I also have arimidex to use during cycle in case I need around 0.25mg/ED or EOD.. i will continue to use this during Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and stop before i start my nolvadex.

Any thoughts or opinions/improvements on this cycle would be greatly appreciated thanks!!

 

[Bullseye Forever]

IMO i would use Deca instead of EQ,deca will give you alot more gains then EQ,they arent even on the same ball park,and along with your test and dbol,excellent bulking cycle,and i would suggest using 400mg of deca minimum,will be a good cycle

 

[coltmc45]

IMO i would use Deca instead of EQ,deca will give you alot more gains then EQ,they arent even on the same ball park,and along with your test and dbol,excellent bulking cycle,and i would suggest using 400mg of deca minimum,will be a good cycle

X2 and don't stop Arimidex when you start post cycle therapy (pct). You'll have to taper down but run your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) all the way through. Aromasin would e better IMO and you don't have to taper.

 

[fontazya]

thanks for the reply guys.. i thought about deca but didnt use it because its so suppressive i didnt wanna end up with deca d***.. Also ive already bought the stuff so kind of too late lol.. Ohh i read heeps of places u were supposed to stop your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before starting SERM therapy.. will look into it more.. do yous think i should start arimidex from the very beginning or wait and see if i get any estrogen sides then start???
thanks!

 

[Cobra Strike]

I personally like your second cycle choice. Eq doesnt provide the gains that deca does but you wont retain as much water and you will have an easier time holding on to your gains.

I would also run your arimidex all the way through your pct, just taper it towards the end to avoid estro rebound. I would use it at .5mg eod but thats me...

as far as when to start it well you can wait to see if you develop signs of gyno and then try to halt the production or you could just start it from the get go...alot of guys can have high estro with no signs of gyno....ai are not just to keep you from getting gyno..it is to keep control of your estro levels...only blood work will help you tweak this

 

[Bullseye Forever]

I personally like your second cycle choice. Eq doesnt provide the gains that deca does but you wont retain as much water and you will have an easier time holding on to your gains.

I would also run your arimidex all the way through your post cycle therapy (pct), just taper it towards the end to avoid estro rebound. I would use it at .5mg eod but thats me...

as far as when to start it well you can wait to see if you develop signs of gyno and then try to halt the production or you could just start it from the get go...alot of guys can have high estro with no signs of gyno....ai are not just to keep you from getting gyno..it is to keep control of your estro levels...only blood work will help you tweak this

What kind of gains could you get from using EQ compared to deca?Ive just reseached alot on EQ and read many post here and other places where the consenses was that eq wasnt all that good,but on here,i keep reading just the opposite,that its actually a good stack with test

 

[Cobra Strike]

What kind of gains could you get from using EQ compared to deca?Ive just reseached alot on EQ and read many post here and other places where the consenses was that eq wasnt all that good,but on here,i keep reading just the opposite,that its actually a good stack with test

It's not so much that the gains are as good....its more so that they are slow and steady and easy to maintain...also doesn't shut you down as hard and holds minimal water weight....I really prefer masteron to eq though....stick and move is up 20 lbs on his test eq cycle so far.

 

[BBE]

If your gonna run the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), run it ON cycle, not during your post cycle therapy (pct). Nolva is a solid choice, throw in something cheap like DAA along with it bro.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

It's not so much that the gains are as good....its more so that they are slow and steady and easy to maintain...also doesn't shut you down as hard and holds minimal water weight....I really prefer masteron to eq though....stick and move is up 20 lbs on his test eq cycle so far.

wow that is a good gain so far,how much eq is he using?

 

[Cobra Strike]

wow that is a good gain so far,how much eq is he using?

I know he is at 600 on the eq...not sure about his test...I want to say 700

 

[Bullseye Forever]

I know he is at 600 on the eq...not sure about his test...I want to say 700

that sounds like he's doing good,if im not wrong,doesnt EQ help your appetite some,increase it?

 

[Cobra Strike]

that sounds like he's doing good,if im not wrong,doesnt EQ help your appetite some,increase it?

Ya he is saying that he's always hungry...I'm also on eq and in the same week as him...I'm not noticing any signs of hunger but maybe the deca I'm taking is suppressing that

 

[fontazya]

thanks for the input guys!!.. yeah i wanted Eq for the more slow steady gains and vascularity.. i did not want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle as ive read it can desensitize your cells if used for long periods of time making recovery even harder... also it only lasts one month in the fridge after reconstituting so using 500IU a week would mean i would have to throw out a lot of the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is VERY hard to get where i am lol... Sorry what is DAA?? havent read about that one?

 

[Cobra Strike]

thanks for the input guys!!.. yeah i wanted Eq for the more slow steady gains and vascularity.. i did not want to run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during cycle as ive read it can desensitize your cells if used for long periods of time making recovery even harder... also it only lasts one month in the fridge after reconstituting so using 500IU a week would mean i would have to throw out a lot of the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is VERY hard to get where i am lol... Sorry what is DAA?? havent read about that one?

hcg will last longer than a month in the fridge mixed with bac water....and it wont desensitize your lehdig cells. It hasnt been clinically proven to do that until your injecting upward of 5000iu at a time....plus you could use it at 500iu mon and thurs and use it all in a month