Some question and opininon on my contest cycle.

[Jprus]

I think the receptor rest is a myth....
Like I said week 7-8 is the most critical in terms of peak gains with med-long esters.Thats when you will be seeing thing happening.
Maybe it would make sense if you were using prop & NPP for 8 wks then totally changing up compounds to enanthate & deca but even then thats backwards lol

I will try it and report back. You feel so strongly about this. So thanks for the opinion bro.

 

[DADAWG]

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; Sustanon (sust) 500 mg.; 400 mg. Deca

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; Sustanon (sust) 500 mg.; 400 mg. Deca

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; Sustanon (sust) 500 mg.; 400 mg. Deca 1xECA stack

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; Sustanon (sust) 500 mg.; 400 mg. Deca 1xECA stack

Week #5: 4 iu's GH/day; Sustanon (sust) 500 mg.; 400 mg. Deca 1xECA stack

Week #6: 4 iu's GH/day; Sustanon (sust) 500 mg.; 400 mg. Deca 1xECA stack


Week #7: off; 5000 iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) split into 1500IU per injection ; 2xECA stack/day; 1 clen/day (2 days on 1 day off)

Week #8: off; 2xECA stack/day; 1 clen/day (2 days on 1 day off)

Week #9: 4 iu's GH/day; 600 mg. Test e; 400 mg. Deca ; 50 mg. Winstrol (winny) oral ED); 2xECA


Week #10: 4 iu's GH/day; 600 mg. Test e; 400 mg. Deca ; 50 mg. Winstrol (winny) oral ED); 2xECA

Week #11: 4 iu's GH/day; 600 mg. Test e; 400 mg. Deca ; 50 mg. Winstrol (winny) oral ED); 2xECA 3 x Clenbuterol tabs,


Week #12: 4 iu's GH/day; 600 mg. Test e; 400 mg. Deca ; 50 mg. Winstrol (winny) oral ED); 2xECA 3 x Clenbuterol tabs,


Week #13: 4 iu's GH/day; 600 mg. Test e; 400 mg. Deca ; 50 mg. Winstrol (winny) oral ED); 2mg of adex tabs/day; 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 2x ECA


Week #14: 4 iu's GH/day; 600 mg. Test e; 400 mg. Deca ; 50 mg. Winstrol (winny) oral ED); 2mg of adex tabs/day; 40 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 2x ECA


Week #15: off 2mg of adex tabs/day; 40 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 2x ECA.


Week #16: off 2mg of adex tabs/day; 40 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 2x ECA.; 5 x Clen tabs (Sun, Mon, Tue only)


Day of contest will be at end of 16th Week.

please tell me your just makeing a joke.


your takeing 2 weeks off mid cycle on going off your cycle 2 weeks precontest so you can show up with your hpta shutdown.


your either makeing a joke or
somebody is putting you up to posting these cycle as a joke on you.




DO NOT RUN A CYCLE
YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOUR DOING AND ARE NOT READY TO CYCLE.

 

[Jprus]

please tell me your just makeing a joke.


your takeing 2 weeks off mid cycle on going off your cycle 2 weeks precontest so you can show up with your hpta shutdown.


your either makeing a joke or
somebody is putting you up to posting these cycle as a joke on you.



DO NOT RUN A CYCLE
YOU DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT YOUR DOING AND ARE NOT READY TO CYCLE.

wow no disrepsect bro but your a bit offensive.

HPTA shutdown? What are you babbling about? Shut down happens no matter what thats what pct is there for. The reason you drop test or gear that retains water is to DROP WATER. PCT usually starts two weeks after esters begin to clear.


Seems like you just like taking shots at people and if your so wise like you seem to claim you are. Than prove to me how you would prep for a show. Fuck... you don't even bodybuild. Again I know your a mod and all this bs but you just sound plain stupid.

This is a sample cycle from a pro. According to you he also has no clue what hes doing.

Week #1: 4 iu's GH/day; 4 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #2: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 1 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day

Week #3: 4 iu's GH/day; 5 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 200 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #4: 4 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 2 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #5: 6iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #6: 6 iu's GH/day; 6 x Sostenon 250 mg.; 400 mg. Deca Durabolin; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; (pre a.m. workout) 3 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 200 mg. caffeine tab

Week #7: off; 5000 iu HCG/day; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #8: off; 2 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 clenbuterol/day (2 days on 1 day off); 300 mg. caffeine x 6 days/week (a.m. only)

Week #9: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #10: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 4 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)

Week #11: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 300 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #12: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 150 mg. Winstrol-V (50 mg. each M-W-F); 4 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 5 x Clenbuterol tabs, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #13: 6 iu's GH/day; 1200 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 5 x 25 mg. Ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #14: 6 iu's GH/day; 1500 mg. Test Cypionate; 600 mg. Deca Durabolin; 300 mg. Winstrol-V (100 mg. each M-W-F); 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


Week #15: off 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 6 x 25 mg. ephedrine tab, 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Week #16: off; 6 x 50 mg. Teslac tabs/day; 2 x 20 mg. Nolvadex tabs/day; 10 x Clenbuterol tab (Sun, Mon, Tue only), 400 mg. caffeine tab (a.m. only)


**Day of contest was at the end of 16th Week.

 

[drewbolic]

You might have interpreted DAWG as taking a shot at you but I highly doubt that was his intention.On this forum the admins/mods have your health in there interest.

This cycle that you have is from Tom Prince correct?

Just step back and really look at it the two compounds of AAS both have decaonate esters which have a long have life so taking two weeks of critical weeks as IMO is just cutting these levels in half wks before your contest.This makes no sense to me...I would love for someone to explain something like this or try to make som e sense of it bc I cant.

 

[DADAWG]

you dont drop all gear before the contest genius , just the stuff that will aromatize / cause you to retain water. you do not know what you are doing , you are clueless .
i though this was a joke , i really did but unfortunately its not. you really really are not ready to cycle.


do what you want but many people here have told you that your cycles are awfull and made it clear you dont know whats going on and should not cycle. it does not get plainer than that.

 

[drewbolic]

Then again this cycle is tailored to prices goals there are some smart dude on this board that have or have had pro cards for BB that im sure will work with you and help come up with a solid cycle for prep of this contest.
You should maybe open up a thread asking for there advice...just my .2 cents

 

[Jprus]

You might have interpreted DAWG as taking a shot at you but I highly doubt that was his intention.On this forum the admins/mods have your health in there interest.

This cycle that you have is from Tom Prince correct?

Just step back and really look at it the two compounds of AAS both have decaonate esters which have a long have life so taking two weeks of critical weeks as IMO is just cutting these levels in half wks before your contest.This makes no sense to me...I would love for someone to explain something like this or try to make som e sense of it bc I cant.

I am a firm believer that dropping test or heavy androgen's. I have always looked better and water was gone in a week. Size strenght stayed the same. It's like bam! you stop using AAS and all sudden nothing works. Hence 12weeks of test your lvls are probably around 1500ng and it's like all sudden they are going to drop to zero once you come off.

Tom Prince must of been doing something right. Again just random shots taken and not a single constructive argument it's like hes sitting behind his computer screen angry at the world.

 

[Jprus]

you dont drop all gear before the contest genius , just the stuff that will aromatize / cause you to retain water. you do not know what you are doing , you are clueless .
i though this was a joke , i really did but unfortunately its not. you really really are not ready to cycle.


do what you want but many people here have told you that your cycles are awfull and made it clear you dont know whats going on and should not cycle. it does not get plainer than that.

oh god ok GENIUS recommend something better instead of saying bullshit like your not rdy to cycle.

I asked for opinions recommendations etc not to be insulted.

 

[DADAWG]

I am a firm believer that dropping test or heavy androgen's. I have always looked better and water was gone in a week. Size strenght stayed the same. It's like bam! you stop using AAS and all sudden nothing works. Hence 12weeks of test your lvls are probably around 1500ng and it's like all sudden they are going to drop to zero once you come off.

Tom Prince must of been doing something right. Again just random shots taken and not a single constructive argument it's like hes sitting behind his computer screen angry at the world.

"Again just random shots taken and not a single constructive argument "



you were told that hgh doesnt work like regular gear and needs months and months to make a difference.

you were told that oral winnie taken 3 days a week was a joke , it has to be taken at least 2-3 times a day

you were told taking off 2 weeks mid cycle was bad

you were told stopping a cycle before a contest and going in shut down was bad.

etc. etc.


you obviouslly came here and posted hoping to hear that your had a great plan and wanted a pat on the back and when that didnt happen you sulked.

things have changed and evolved as more and more knowledge comes along. copying tom prince who was a geneticly gifted human is not right for you.

 

[drewbolic]

I am a firm believer that dropping test or heavy androgen's. I have always looked better and water was gone in a week. Size strenght stayed the same. It's like bam! you stop using AAS and all sudden nothing works. Hence 12weeks of test your lvls are probably around 1500ng and it's like all sudden they are going to drop to zero once you come off.

Tom Prince must of been doing something right. Again just random shots taken and not a single constructive argument it's like hes sitting behind his computer screen angry at the world.

ok you are right prince must have been doing something right.
This very unconventional you must admit.
But to debate this we have to get Prince here lol.Why not control water weight which is most commonly from aromatising compounds with AI's and diet?
An aromasin inhibitor can control a great deal of estrogen related sides.
And a strong clean low sodium diet will help as well with the water retention.
Here is another thought as well the compounds that you plan on running are highly aromatising.Why not switch them out with shorter esters i.e. propionate-NPP that do not retain as much water if this is such a concern?

 

[Jprus]

"Again just random shots taken and not a single constructive argument "



you were told that hgh doesnt work like regular gear and needs months and months to make a difference.

you were told that oral winnie taken 3 days a week was a joke , it has to be taken at least 2-3 times a day

you were told taking off 2 weeks mid cycle was bad

you were told stopping a cycle before a contest and going in shut down was bad.

etc. etc.


you obviouslly came here and posted hoping to hear that your had a great plan and wanted a pat on the back and when that didnt happen you sulked.

things have changed and evolved as more and more knowledge comes along. copying tom prince who was a geneticly gifted human is not right for you.

ok you are right prince must have been doing something right.
This very unconventional you must admit.
But to debate this we have to get Prince here lol.Why not control water weight which is most commonly from aromatising compounds with AI's and diet?
An aromasin inhibitor can control a great deal of estrogen related sides.
And a strong clean low sodium diet will help as well with the water retention.
Here is another thought as well the compounds that you plan on running are highly aromatising.Why not switch them out with shorter esters i.e. propionate-NPP that do not retain as much water if this is such a concern?

winny at 2 to 3 times a day are you crazy thats 150x5 days thats 750mg of just Winstrol (winny) not mention the strain on the liver. Heck maybe your right or maybe your not. Science behind this. I always assumed 50mg is enough ed?

I have been taking gh for a while and how I am sure it will work for me. I want fat loss and at the dosage I am using 4IU it will work for me.

Again I am staying firm on getting off heavy androgen's compounds to get rid of water. I might add masteron for the last two weeks and leave test like you said. All depends on how I look. Btw I am going to have to come off no way about it. Pct and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will be used. Plus I always recover well.

No dawg I came on here to share and post opinions not to boost my ego. I have not started yet so nothing is lost yet. No hard feelings bro just a matter of different opinions.

 

[Jprus]

ok you are right prince must have been doing something right.
This very unconventional you must admit.
But to debate this we have to get Prince here lol.Why not control water weight which is most commonly from aromatising compounds with AI's and diet?
An aromasin inhibitor can control a great deal of estrogen related sides.
And a strong clean low sodium diet will help as well with the water retention.
Here is another thought as well the compounds that you plan on running are highly aromatising.Why not switch them out with shorter esters i.e. propionate-NPP that do not retain as much water if this is such a concern?

I can't switch compounds because I already have all the gear.

 

[DADAWG]

winny at 2 to 3 times a day are you crazy thats 150x5 days thats 750mg of just Winstrol (winny) not mention the strain on the liver. Heck maybe your right or maybe your not. Science behind this. I always assumed 50mg is enough ed?

I have been taking gh for a while and how I am sure it will work for me. I want fat loss and at the dosage I am using 4IU it will work for me.

Again I am staying firm on getting off heavy androgen's compounds to get rid of water. I might add masteron for the last two weeks and leave test like you said. All depends on how I look. Btw I am going to have to come off no way about it. Pct and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will be used. Plus I always recover well.

you divide the dose of orals throughout the day. example if your taking 60 mg you might do 20 mg 3 times a day , etc.

the masteron is something that i do like lol , but i would run it instead of the deca deca can cause non estrogenic water gains and anti estrogens wont help with that , also deca is a LONG ester and wont even be clear of your system 2 weeks after the last injection.


use short ester test like prop and then come off the test a week or 2 before contest [ a competitive bodybuilder can refine the timeline for you] stay on the non androgen gear until after the contest.

 

[Jprus]

you divide the dose of orals throughout the day. example if your taking 60 mg you might do 20 mg 3 times a day , etc.

the masteron is something that i do like lol , but i would run it instead of the deca deca can cause non estrogenic water gains and anti estrogens wont help with that , also deca is a LONG ester and wont even be clear of your system 2 weeks after the last injection.


use short ester test like prop and then come off the test a week or 2 before contest [ a competitive bodybuilder can refine the timeline for you] stay on the non androgen gear until after the contest.

deca's estrogen conversion is only about 20% when compared to test and nolva can help with water retention. Deca begins to clears your system with 10 to 14 days.

I don't like pinning prop ed so no thanks. Plus I do want lumps from it that take weeks to go away.

Would you be fine with tren,winny and mast?

 

[DADAWG]

deca's estrogen conversion is only about 20% when compared to test and nolva can help with water retention. Deca clears your system with 10 to 14 days.

I don't like pinning prop ed so no thanks. Plus I do want lumps from it that take weeks to go away.

Would you be fine with tren,winny and mast?

deca can cause progesterone/prolactin issues , wasnt worried about estrogen.


im not a fan of a test free cycle but that might work for precontest.the tren is probablly acetate and needs every other day injects just like the prop.

 

[Jprus]

deca can cause progesterone/prolactin issues , wasnt worried about estrogen.


im not a fan of a test free cycle but that might work for precontest.the tren is probablly acetate and needs every other day injects just like the prop.

prami on hand.

oh god my head hurts. I will be back tomorrow to further discuss this prep cycle.


Off to dinner with my gf before she kills me.

Again no disrepect dog. I appreciated the help.

 

[Platinum-]

cant someone blow up at him for playing around with nolva either during cycle or pct while using deca?
i fuckn copped it lol