Started my helladrol cycle

Couple of things:

1) I ran more than 75mg and it was truly mostly side effects. Seriously, 75mg is the sweet spot and stick to it IMHO.

2) you need a SERM. Get some Nolva and it will also help you get rid of gyno if does happen. Get some arimidex just in case you rebound and get gyno from that. Arimidex will take care of that.

3) Good call on the DAA. I would also suggest using 4g of fish oil through out the cycle and pct also (I always do 4g all year around).
 
You could also look in Osta from SarmsSearch to use into pct, it "may" be slightly suppressive, I dont personally think it was, but it helped me keep all my gains as well as continue to make them. It essential extended the 6 week cycle to 10 weeks while giving the liver a break
 
Colbert said:
Couple of things:

1) I ran more than 75mg and it was truly mostly side effects. Seriously, 75mg is the sweet spot and stick to it IMHO.

2) you need a SERM. Get some Nolva and it will also help you get rid of gyno if does happen. Get some arimidex just in case you rebound and get gyno from that. Arimidex will take care of that.

3) Good call on the DAA. I would also suggest using 4g of fish oil through out the cycle and pct also (I always do 4g all year around).
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I read that when you take your helladrol you should take fish oil at the same time. Is this needed?
 
yeah man you'll definetly get your bench back up on helladrol you get strong as shit i can still bench around 335-345 so i lost some, but i also am on a cut right now and im not using a ph....as of your macros i would do more carbs less protein....say 30-35% protein 50%-55% carbs and maybe 15% fat..keep in mind the protein your body doesn't use becomes fat so high protein doesn't mean your going to build more mass...honestly 2.5g per kg of body weight and you'll be good for protein and thats even high...carbs+proteins together=great results train hard eat right and you'll gain alot...im about to jump back on hella soon and hopefully get to 5-6% bf and bench hopefully around 385 at 170 pounds thats my goal. maybe pull 585 for 1 on deadlift too lol
 
Good news all the stores in my town either do not carry taurine or are out...I live in a ton off 11,000 and apparently have if them are getting back pumps....weird, other then that nothing new, i do get a little hot after about and hour of taking 2 caps, i kind of like it though. i got 2 other friends that started this with me but they are 2 days ahead of me. One of them said they get a little warm as well. Iv gotten zero lethargy but i get panic attacks so i am already a weirdo! BTW i use to take fish oil but the BURPS are sick..and SERM IT IS!
 
Just ordered some Forma-Stanzol, so much hype it was hard not to. anyone here recommend best time to use it? As in should i take it when i take my helladrol or what?
 
Forma in the morning and at night.

No idea what the benefit of using fish oil at the same time as hella would be...
 
Noob84 said:
Forma in the morning and at night.

No idea what the benefit of using fish oil at the same time as hella would be...
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Most of the compounds are fat soluable. Fish oil contains EFA's which can promote proper absorption, people like to use them to help with the imflamation of joints as well. But the main reason its said to take it with helladrol is for absorption purposes
 
Rudy45 said:
Just ordered some Forma-Stanzol, so much hype it was hard not to. anyone here recommend best time to use it? As in should i take it when i take my helladrol or what?
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Isn't hella (or H-drol or HaloX) a dry component? Why would you need an AI like Forma?
 
barnzy7 said:
Most of the compounds are fat soluable. Fish oil contains EFA's which can promote proper absorption, people like to use them to help with the imflamation of joints as well. But the main reason its said to take it with helladrol is for absorption purposes
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Ahhh, so thats it, ok thanks for the confirmation my man.
 
yellowballs said:
How about timing of when to take your liver support? Take it with the Hella? Take it an hour later? An hour before?
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5/6 hrs later.

The liver supports can essentially clean out ur body of the ph.

Keep the doses far apart. I take hella 1st thing am and pre workout. I take all support & liver support before going to bed.
 
gymrat827 said:
5/6 hrs later.

The liver supports can essentially clean out ur body of the ph.

Keep the doses far apart. I take hella 1st thing am and pre workout. I take all support & liver support before going to bed.
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Wow ok. So your last hella is 5/6 hours before bed?
 
So I have N2 Guard, Forged liver support, and in addition I have NAC, milk thistle, red yeast. I have the last 3 because both N2 guard and Forged dont seem like they have enough.

I was going to span the day with the N2 guard cause you have to take 7 caps. So 2 am, 2 afternoon, 3 before bed. I was going to take the Forged at lunch time. The NAC , milk thistle and red yeast I was going to take at breakfast and dinner.

Maybe you can help me get this all correct?
 
I think you are playing it ueber safe on all the support.
Nothing wrong with that, except it should be taken as gymrat said.

I would take the NAC with breakfast, Halo an hour or 2 after, then in the afternoon 30 min pre WO the second halo dose and all the support right before you hit the sack.
In your case, that will be like 12 pills...
I added joint support, just FYI.
 
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