Starting cycle soon need advice.

deniz

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Age 22
Weight 198lb

week 1-6 50mg dbol per day
week 1-14 400mg deca per week
week 1-16 750mg sus per week
week 1-18 12.5mg aromison eod
week 19-22 nova 40/40/20/20
week 19-22 clomid 50/50/50/50(a little short on the clomid might not have enough for the last 2-3 days)

Injecting sus and deca Monday and Thursday.

I think my cycles good now just a few questions about some stuff.
Whats the best time to take the dbol i was thinking 20mg in the morning when i wake up around 6:30am. Another 20mg during my lunch break around 12:30pm which is about 3 hours before i go gym. 10mg at 6:30pm. What do you guys think ?

I know your meant to up calories on cycle was wondering how you figure out the number. Last cycle i did about 4.5k and in the last few weeks i didn't see many gains i probably should have increased it a bit.

Also do you up calories day one or do you gradually increase it.

Im also planning on cutting after my pct. I understand your meant to keep calories the same during pct but what about after can i drop to a cut straight away or should i go down slowly. If so how long ?

I was looking at liver guards the one i found has these ingredients N Acetyl Cysteine 800mg, Milk Thistle 500mg, Acetyl Carnitine 480mg, Alpha Lipoic Acid 200mg and Vitamin E 20mg per 2000mg dose. Does that look alright? Do i stop that after the first 6 weeks or continue the full cycle.

I was also gonna try some D Aspartic Acid would that work on cycle or is that only gonna work when my bodies producing the test?

Thanks for the help.
 
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what are your stats? How many cycles deep are you? I would def. add Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) heavy cycle and kinda long.

What stats exactly ? prop + test e first time although my body didn't like the prop but i think it was just the brand. 2nd cycle testoviron and dbol.

Can't easily get a hold of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in australia.

As for long cycle i was originally planning on 10 weeks deca and 12 weeks sus but some 1 said 10 weeks is to short and to increase deca to 12 weeks so i thought might as well make it 14 since i have to purchase the extra sus and deca anyway.
 
mayebe you might wanna add some prami or caber, because your nips will be leaking.... prolactin cause... deca & tren do this. So get it!! :). You be fine on the post cycle therapy (pct), but as stated above try to get it man(HCG). Maybe try to get nolva. O yeaaaa i forgot get more clomid, run clomid eod .50mg to keep your ballz normal :). That will work too!
 
The normal stats like height, weight, years lifting, etc...

5ft10, 198lbs and around 2.5 years lifting. Around 20% body fat i think.

you'd be wise to use the Aromasin daily especially when taking Dbol

So 12.5 ed and then drop to eod week 7 ? I have them in pill form so might be a problem if i need to half the dosage.

mayebe you might wanna add some prami or caber, because your nips will be leaking.... prolactin cause... deca & tren do this. So get it!! :). You be fine on the post cycle therapy (pct), but as stated above try to get it man(HCG). Maybe try to get nolva. O yeaaaa i forgot get more clomid, run clomid eod .50mg to keep your ballz normal :). That will work too!

Ok i can most likely get prami or caber. Which ones better you think ? Whats the nova and clomid for ? do i need more for pct or is that to take during cycle?

Make sure you watch for sides.
Will do. Not very gyno sensitive so i should be alright.
 
20% bf and a cycle like that without a AI?

week 1-18 12.5mg aromison eod
Isn't that my Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I still haven't got the stuff yet so i am open to change. I was originally planning dbol the same deca for 10 weeks and sus for 12 but some one told me that deca should be a minimum of 12 weeks so if im gonna get another bottle i just thought i might as well do 14weeks rather then waste 6mls doing 12.
 
btw if u search long and hard online i am sure you can find Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) it isnt that hard and its pretty cheap from what i hear.
Its not that finding it is hard its just illegal in aus and getting it through customs would be very low.
 
so i am adding wk1-14 0.25mg prami ed (pre bed) and changing the stane to 12.5mg ed. If i can get Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) i will but if i can't what would the side effects be just longer natural test recovery ?
Actually might use caber twice a week at .5mg since its cheaper and easier for me.
 
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Nolva and clomid is for post cycle therapy (pct), i get prami because our source sells its, its very strong so start off at .30mg. run PCT clomid 50/50/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20. THats it so far, def make sure u got the prami or caber. Otherwise everything looks fine to me. O yea grab something for your liver man, you got dbol which can be harsh on the liver.
 
O yea grab something for your liver man, you got dbol which can be harsh on the liver.
Like what i keep reading stuff about it and most people say that most liver things don't work. Some suggest milk thistle but others say it doesn't work and that it might affect your gains.
I also seen some suggestions for nac and vitamin c.
 
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