starting first serious cycle, would love some input

[jackieblackeye]

weeks
1 - 3 - Test P - 100mg eod
1 - 10 - Test E - 500mg ew - monday, thursday
1 - 8 - Deca - 400mg ew - monday
1 - 10 - Primo - 200mg ew - monday
13-17 - Clomid - 50/25/25/25

28. 6'0. 200lb.
bf around 18%

diet of 6 meals with at least 40g of protein, divided into 3 regular meals and 3 shakes + whatever else i can stomac, 2 tablespoons of fresh codliver oil in the mornings.

Should I adjust the clomid, stock up on anti gynos and what about hcg?
I have not experienced any gyno or gonad shrinkage before, but my previous cycles were both lower dosage and duration

 

[Metalhead]

I would extend the deca to 12 weeks and do 2 pins a week and extend the test to 14 weeks. I would suggest an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) adex or aromasin, a dopamine agonist caber or prami, nolva added to the pct, and more whole foods and less shakes

 

[Rumpy]

Everything Metalhead said, plus HCG. Is this your first cycle ever? If so, that's a lot of gear.

 

[jackieblackeye]

Thanks for the input metalhead, I will make the adjustments.

However I supsect the dopamine agonist might be hard to get. This is to counter any progestin sides from the nandrolone, right? If the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is run throughout the cycle I minimize the odds of it happening. So it should be possible to do without, albeit risky.
Am I right or should I take it back to the drawingboard?

 

[jackieblackeye]

Not my first cycle rumpy, I've done orals, injectables and peptides. Although never more than 8 weeks, and never right.
Decided it was time to do some reading and do it as safely as possible.

 

[Bundy1991]

You can get all your pct/ai's/dopa agonists (prami) from rui bro. They are a sponsor here.

 

[Metalhead]

Thanks for the input metalhead, I will make the adjustments.

However I supsect the dopamine agonist might be hard to get. This is to counter any progestin sides from the nandrolone, right? If the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is run throughout the cycle I minimize the odds of it happening. So it should be possible to do without, albeit risky.
Am I right or should I take it back to the drawingboard?

Right. You can get prami at rui. Correct if your estro is under control you shouldn't have problems with proactin. The main reason I took caber is because deca shut me down hard and it became a little more difficult to get hard ons, but after taking caber they came easier and more frequent

 

[jackieblackeye]

alright, new cycle looks like this
weeks
1 - 3 - test P - 100mg eod
1 - 14 - test E - 500mg ew - monday, thursday (250/250)
1 - 12 - deca - 400mg ew - monday, thursday (200/200)
2 - 15 - Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - 250iu e4d

1 - 15 - adex - 0.5mg eod
15-19 - clomid 50/50/50/50
15-20 - Nolva 20/20/10/10/10/10

still not entirely sure of when to end the arimidex or whether to include the primo or not
Infact, not sure about the chlomid/nolva dosage either, so many different opinions around the forums.

 

[Rumpy]

The new one looks good to me, that's basically what I have in mind for my next. I would lower the adex to E3D to start and increase it if you feel itchy, same at the end, taper it down, but do not hesitate to take more at the first sign. I would just plan to run a little prami or caber while on cycle. All I can say about the primo is I'm not planning to add it to my next one, but to each their own.

 

[jackieblackeye]

alright rumpy, thanks for the input! You guys just might have saved my gonads