Supergirl help!!

[rebecca68]

Hey, its beca again. Ok i have a dilemma. I have not taken anything since my last show, although i am thinner but still have some muscle. I need to build up fast and then drop all in the next 12 weeks. I have the 20mg anavar and i have 10 mg Winstrol (winny) tabs. What do you suggest i do to build up as much as i can before i compete. My body fat is always naturally very low. Thanks for your help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone else please throw in your opinion.

 

[DADAWG]

Hey, its beca again. Ok i have a dilemma. I have not taken anything since my last show, although i am thinner but still have some muscle. I need to build up fast and then drop all in the next 12 weeks. I have the 20mg anavar and i have 10 mg Winstrol (winny) tabs. What do you suggest i do to build up as much as i can before i compete. My body fat is always naturally very low. Thanks for your help !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone else please throw in your opinion.

whats you typical and highest dose cycle history and side effects experienced ?

 

[supergirl]

Hey B.. no worries girl, you can do this!!

ok.. i know you know, but 12 weeks out, your diet HAS to be clean... get your bodyweight in protein to help your muscle gains and conditioning.. keep your carbs in but controlled... around 6 weeks out take a look at the diet again to make adjustments for cutting..

with both Winstrol (winny) and var you WILL NEED to use a liver support like milk thistle or silymarin!!! also keep an eye on your cholesterol!! the combo has the tendency to increase bad cholesterol..

ok...
Here is my suggestion..
week 1 - 10mg var ED
week 2 - 10mg var ED 5mg winnie ED
week 3 - 20mg var ED 5mg winnie ED
week 4 - week 8 - 20mg var ED 10mg winnie ED (see how you are tolerating everything... if you are ok with NO sides continue til week 10...) also re-check your diet... right now you should be looking pretty damn muscular and lean!!
week 10 - 20mg var 5mg winnie
week 11 & week 12 (through your show) - 10mg var (also any cutting agents)


sound good to you?? your thoughts?? make adjustments wherever you feel is necessary and listen to your body!!! keep me posted!!

luv supes

 

[rebecca68]

For the first question, i did Winstrol (winny) only so far, the injectable... which i did not have much as far as sides and the dose i took was really low but i dont want to do the injectable again.
I need to put on some more muscle, especially my legs. I still have a descent amount in my upper body. I am naturally very lean. My bodyfat is already pretty low.
I am eating clean right now, have been for a few weeks already. I only weight 114, when i was on Winstrol (winny) i was about 130 and then around 120 when i competed, so i am low right now.
I keep hearing different things like, Winstrol (winny) is just to get you lean and anavar can put some muscle on, then i hear the opposite.
Also, i am not really sure what milk thistle or silymarine is..... i will do it if its what i am supposed to do just not sure what or where you get it. I have my Winstrol (winny) tabs now but wont have the var until Tuesday. Im running out of time and worried about getting some size on but again, i drop body fat so fast and easy that i dont need the typical length of time to do that. Thanks so much for the help!!

 

[rebecca68]

What cutting agents do you recommend the most??

 

[supergirl]

You NEED to eat about 120 grams of protein a day to increase your lean muscle mass!!!
winny in more androgenic then var (not by too much) so therefore Winstrol (winny) has the tendency to put on more muscle then var.. however var seems to increase strength more than winny.. Just be careful of your joints while on winny!!

ok.. milk thistle and silymarin can be bought otc at Vitamin Shoppe etc.. they are herbs that detoxify and cleanse the liver.. VERY necessary when doing alk17 orals... I normally also take cranberry extract with my milk thistle to help along my kidneys as well

Cutting agents: honestly, water manipulation works wonders.. if you are up to a gallon-a gallon and a half per day, you will be able to cut water very nicely.. also a mild diruetic if you are holding a bit helps.. you can use an otc dandelion root or pick another mild one..

also to cut, ephedra... tanning with thimucase or dmso applied to the stubborn areas... i also drink a hot cup of coffee prior to working out to raise my body temp and for the extra jolt of caffeine...

there are harsher cutters out there, but if you don't need them, don't bother..

as you said, you are lean..

worry about getting in your protein!!! Also try a bit of a plyometric leg training routine (sprints, jumps, any explosive fast twitch exercise) it will help to shock your legs and bring them in... oh yea, & SQUAT!! hack is fine.. whatever works..

keep me posted..
luv supes

 

[rebecca68]

Thanks so much. You are so informative, I just love hearing what you have to say. I may have a change though. Tell me what you think. I had someone i know get a hold of and actually recommend that i do primobolen (spelling ?) one shot a week for 5 weeks then start the anavar for the last 6 weeks. Whats your thoughts on that and do you think that will help with the mass a little more.
By the way, i am at about 180-200 grams protein per day as of now. So thats def not an issue. My legs are my biggest worry, If you saw my last pics, you can see how thin my legs are. They are capable of building, its just the length of time i have.

 

[poptarts]

hi there

this might sound like a silly question but is there not drug testing in body building? if there is when does it get done and how long does it take for all of that above for rebecca68 to get out of the system?

 

[rebecca68]

If that was the case, no one would be competing, theyd all be kicked out. Im not competing in natural shows.

 

[Miss Muscle]

If that was the case, no one would be competing, theyd all be kicked out. Im not competing in natural shows.

That is pretty much true. Although there are natural shows out there to compete it, the non - natural are much more common. I'm most likely competing this year.....I'm a small girl and it takes me a while to gain muscle. I'm contemplating using....but gonna really make a go at it naturally first.

 

[poptarts]

i see.

thanks

 

[Fyre]

Hey B.. no worries girl, you can do this!!

ok.. i know you know, but 12 weeks out, your diet HAS to be clean... get your bodyweight in protein to help your muscle gains and conditioning.. keep your carbs in but controlled... around 6 weeks out take a look at the diet again to make adjustments for cutting..

with both Winstrol (winny) and var you WILL NEED to use a liver support like milk thistle or silymarin!!! also keep an eye on your cholesterol!! the combo has the tendency to increase bad cholesterol..

ok...
Here is my suggestion..
week 1 - 10mg var ED
week 2 - 10mg var ED 5mg winnie ED
week 3 - 20mg var ED 5mg winnie ED
week 4 - week 8 - 20mg var ED 10mg winnie ED (see how you are tolerating everything... if you are ok with NO sides continue til week 10...) also re-check your diet... right now you should be looking pretty damn muscular and lean!!
week 10 - 20mg var 5mg winnie
week 11 & week 12 (through your show) - 10mg var (also any cutting agents)


sound good to you?? your thoughts?? make adjustments wherever you feel is necessary and listen to your body!!! keep me posted!!

luv supes

Excellent advice as usual Supes!

 

[rebecca68]

IN the same form as above, can anyone recommend the how to stack the var with primo. Ten weeks from show as of now (and how to taper off each one)