T3 or T4
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dcorti01 said:
That is what everyone does. I went up to 100mcg in the course of maybe 4 days, and I did not taper when I stopped. I didn't seem to have any problems. But I stopped at least a month before my cycle ended. It might be tough ending the T3 use and your cycle at the same time. I have been reading more threads where people seem to question whether you need to taper it or not. Mind you, I am no expert, just relating personal experience.
If you do a search you can see how different people run it.
Deepglute
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Here is an interesting read on the benefits of combining the use of both T2 and T3:dcorti01 said:
"T3 is generally considered the king of thyroid hormones. While it is the most metabolically active hormone compared to T4 or T3 it is not necessarily the best choice for a BB interested in fat loss/muscle preservation. T3 is known for causing muscle wasting almost as rapidly as lipolysis in a dose dependant manner. Hence the more you ramp up your T3 dose [in effort to oxidize fat] you increase the protein oxidation rate and break down more muscle.
While human research is limited in comparing effects of T2 and T3 on fat loss, its generally agreed that T2 has an similar effect on fat loss (at a high enough dose) while not wasting nearly as much muscle as T3 (if any at all). In fact studies have shown T2 to have a more profound and direct effect on stimulating mitochondrial activity. Its also been shown that only T2 was active in stimulating rapid hepatic oxygen consumption.
If I had to choose the most single most effective thyroid hormone Id choose T2. Yet I do believe a combination of T2 and T3 to be the most effective since its been proven that the different thyroid hormones actually have tissue-specific variation that’s been proven by the analysis of lipogenic enzymes in liver and heart. In this case you know you would be covering all your “metabolic bases” with the combination of T2 and T3
Mg per mg T2 is less biologically active than T3 so a higher dose of T2 is needed for a comparable metabolic effect. In looks something like this:
25mcg T3 = 100mcg T2.
The T5 formula is dosed at 25mcg of T3 to 75mcg of T2 per ml. This ratio creates the perfect thyroidal profile causing maximum fat loss with minimal muscle wasting. This is the perfect supplement for GH users and dieters since both will down regulate your thyroid out put.
DOSING: Its important to remember that the combination of these two very powerful thyroid hormones is going to create a synergistic effect and allow for lower dosages than what you would normally use of each individually. The average human is only producing about 25mcg/day of T3 so consider this when deciding your dose. On that note, Id never use more than 2-3ml/day (depending on your weight)
I DO recommending ramping up your dose slowing since this will create a more gradual increase in your thyroid levels. Remember you are stacking an exogenous dose on top of your already present endogenous level. Give your body time to reduce its own thyroid production before you hammer it with your synthetic thyroid.
I DON’T recommend ramping down the dose. In my opinion going ‘cold turkey’ with the endocrine system is best for encouraging a quick recovery. A good metabolic TSH stimulator is crucial after a thyroid cycle. Hotrox by ‘Biotest’ is the best product for this that I’m aware of."
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It is important to stress that a cycle should last no longer than 6 weeks and it should never be halted abruptly. As slowly as the dosage was built up it should also be lowered, one tablet every 3-4 days. Taking Cytomel for too long and/or at too high a dosage can result in a permanent thyroid deficiency. After doing such, one might need to be treated with a drug like Cytomel for life.
Jacky_Zebsten
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i used t3 recently. worked wonders but it does shred muscle as well as fat... i lost 6kgs in 2 weeks. and kept it off.
lost a lot of strength too
lost a lot of strength too
Jacky_Zebsten
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ran it with clen but stopped the clen due to killer headaches. stopped the clen a week before stopping t3.
i wasnt on a cycle... test would help to reduce muscle loss
i wasnt on a cycle... test would help to reduce muscle loss
roccodart440
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If Iw as to use T3 i'd want to be on cycle when I did it.
simpllyhuge
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deep glute, i value ur info, Do you think this is superior or not as good to running t4 with gh.
simpllyhuge
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well excuse me lol. it was only my second time asking and that was after seeing this article
so in the other thread u reccomended 100mgc t4 each day. I assume i take the t4 on gh off days if i have any. And should i stop the t4 a few weeks before the gh, to allow my thyroid to return before coming off everything?
thanks sorry if im beating this to death.
so in the other thread u reccomended 100mgc t4 each day. I assume i take the t4 on gh off days if i have any. And should i stop the t4 a few weeks before the gh, to allow my thyroid to return before coming off everything?
thanks sorry if im beating this to death.
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Deepglute said:
Take it easy Deepglute. I can imagine this info is far from common knowledge for a lot of people.
simpllyhuge
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well he told me already once in a another thread but thats before i came upon this
carolinacrackah
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I have used T3 many times....I dont know for sure the effect it had on size but I know for sure that my strength was inhibited.
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