Tamoxifen for gyno.worked for me.Thoughts?

jmt2125

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I have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for about six months.120mgs e7d.I had a bad case of gyno flare up, painful lumps that progressed..I was taking adex .25 eod and it didnt help at all..After bloodwork we found the adex drove my e2 to 9..So i talked doc into trying tamoxifen, within 2 weeks pain and lumps went down significantly.
Just wondering if anyone had thoughts on how long I can run tamox. Im afraid if i ever do stop, it will flare up again..
 
Based on the information you've provided, I say that it is likely that if you stop using the tamoxifen and continue the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) your condition will reoccur.

From what you've stated, you have likely accomplished two things that have contributed to the elimination of your gyno. First, using the Adex, you drove your estrogen levels down significantly. Over time, that would have by itself provided you some relief. Additionally, by using the tamoxifen after you discontinued the Adex, you introduced a competitive binding option at the estrogen receptors in your breast tissue that were previously available for estrogen binding. The tamoxifen has a higher binding affinity to the estrogen receptor and is now binding in place of any estrogen to the previously affected receptors.

I would not stop using the tamoifen while you are still taking the test. At 120 mgs per week, you obviously hae a very strong inclination for aromitazation and to discontinue the tamoxifen while still using thetest would open up the receptors to estrogen binding again.

If you want to stop using the tamoxifen, reduce your test levels first. I'd suggest you get a blood test to see where you are in terms of test levels now. You will need to lower than where you are now in terms of test levels to mitigate the problem from occurring in the future. Once you get your test levels down, make sure your estrogen levels are also in a normal or acceptable range before you remove the tamoxifen.

How many mgs per day of tamoxifen are you currently using? 10 - 20 mgs a day should be all you need and you can use that dosage for an extend time fame but I would suggest that you use as little tamoxifen as possible to manage the issue since it does have some hepatic impact





I have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for about six months.120mgs e7d.I had a bad case of gyno flare up, painful lumps that progressed..I was taking adex .25 eod and it didnt help at all..After bloodwork we found the adex drove my e2 to 9..So i talked doc into trying tamoxifen, within 2 weeks pain and lumps went down significantly.
Just wondering if anyone had thoughts on how long I can run tamox. Im afraid if i ever do stop, it will flare up again..
 
I have "natural" gyno that started when I was adolescent. Has anyone heard of using meds to reduce or eliminate gyno without surgery?
 
I have been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for about six months.120mgs e7d.I had a bad case of gyno flare up, painful lumps that progressed..I was taking adex .25 eod and it didnt help at all..After bloodwork we found the adex drove my e2 to 9..So i talked doc into trying tamoxifen, within 2 weeks pain and lumps went down significantly.
Just wondering if anyone had thoughts on how long I can run tamox. Im afraid if i ever do stop, it will flare up again..

Tamox will only block receptors . yoru estrogen will keep on building (if thats the problem) and it would never be fixed. if your dose of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is not working , rais eit a bit and wait a couple months, and after you raise it stop the tamox. its NOT fixing anything. only helping some spots as a temp fix.
ans tamox has side effects too, not somthign I would just take every day.
 
Based on the information you've provided, I say that it is likely that if you stop using the tamoxifen and continue the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) your condition will reoccur.

From what you've stated, you have likely accomplished two things that have contributed to the elimination of your gyno. First, using the Adex, you drove your estrogen levels down significantly. Over time, that would have by itself provided you some relief. Additionally, by using the tamoxifen after you discontinued the Adex, you introduced a competitive binding option at the estrogen receptors in your breast tissue that were previously available for estrogen binding. The tamoxifen has a higher binding affinity to the estrogen receptor and is now binding in place of any estrogen to the previously affected receptors.

I would not stop using the tamoifen while you are still taking the test. At 120 mgs per week, you obviously hae a very strong inclination for aromitazation and to discontinue the tamoxifen while still using thetest would open up the receptors to estrogen binding again.

If you want to stop using the tamoxifen, reduce your test levels first. I'd suggest you get a blood test to see where you are in terms of test levels now. You will need to lower than where you are now in terms of test levels to mitigate the problem from occurring in the future. Once you get your test levels down, make sure your estrogen levels are also in a normal or acceptable range before you remove the tamoxifen.

How many mgs per day of tamoxifen are you currently using? 10 - 20 mgs a day should be all you need and you can use that dosage for an extend time fame but I would suggest that you use as little tamoxifen as possible to manage the issue since it does have some hepatic impact


Sorry I dont agree.
he DO NOT have to lower his test, he needs to up his Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose SLIGHTLY wait a couple of week to make sure estorgen has gone down a bit, before he stops the tamox.
then stop the tamox and continue with your Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) test and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). if needed in a couple weeks up it again. but do so bit by bit to avoid lowering your estrogen too low. then your set for the long term
keep your test as high as you can (125-150mg is pritty damin low so thats why i dotn agree), but control your estrogen.

thats my op anyway...
 
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I have "natural" gyno that started when I was adolescent. Has anyone heard of using meds to reduce or eliminate gyno without surgery?

If its set in long term gyno, I am sure only surgery would remove it now.
you could try lowering your estrogen for a long time but its unhealthy and for old gyno (developed glands) its not gonna take thagt away.
 
Thanks guys, I am taking 20 mgs a day now, first week was 40mgs. My only issue with upping the adex is, it never seemed to do anything with the gyno symptoms except for lower my e2.
I have wondered at 120mgs a week if it was too low to Keep my estrogen levels steady. Meaning there wasn't enough test to aromatize to estrogen to keep from tanking my e2. But why would I have such bad gyno symptoms.
I guess primarily I am looking for an explanation to why the symptoms are there with no e2 issues.
I currently do not see any sides from the tamoxifen, but I dont want to have to take it for the long run.
Porkchop, don't you think when upping the dose of adex I would have the same results of lowering the e2, maybe even faster? Like I stated I never had any reduction or relief of symptoms from the adex even at e2 of 9
 
Sorry I dont agree.
he DO NOT have to lower his test, he needs to up his Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose SLIGHTLY wait a couple of week to make sure estorgen has gone down a bit, before he stops the tamox.
then stop the tamox and continue with your HRT test and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). if needed in a couple weeks up it again. but do so bit by bit to avoid lowering your estrogen too low. then your set for the long term
keep your test as high as you can (125-150mg is pritty damin low so thats why i dotn agree), but control your estrogen.

thats my op anyway...

Re-read his original post. You missed the point. The Aromatase inhibitor (AI) was not effective for him even though he lowered his estrogen to 9. He is dealing with site specific aromitization and not systemic conversion. There is a difference.

If the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is not effective and you want to stop the tamoxifen, you will need to lower the test dosage to a point that the site specific potination of the estrogen receptors is inhibited. Tamox is blocking the receptors now but without it and continuous test dosage it will reoccur.
 
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As far as stopping the tamoxifen, I feel like if it's working I should stick with it. You mentioned hepatic impact, should I look into milk thistle or other liver support?
Also, I know this is the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) section and I am staying with the low dose of test, but I do plan on doing some blasts of higher dosing test and possibly tren in the future. I definitely think I will stay on the tamoxifen for that. I guess I really don't feel a need to stop, it just seems alot of people feel it's not good to run long term.
 
As far as stopping the tamoxifen, I feel like if it's working I should stick with it. You mentioned hepatic impact, should I look into milk thistle or other liver support?
Also, I know this is the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) section and I am staying with the low dose of test, but I do plan on doing some blasts of higher dosing test and possibly tren in the future. I definitely think I will stay on the tamoxifen for that. I guess I really don't feel a need to stop, it just seems alot of people feel it's not good to run long term.

If it is working and you are planning on continuing your test dosage "as is," I wouldn't stop. The hepatic impact is nominal at the 10-20 mgs daily dosage.

Before you go and spend money on liver support, I would get AST and ALT enzymes tested with you next blood work so you can have some idea about the hepatic impact. Anything less than 55 on both and I wouldn't be to concerned and there would not be a real compelling need for liver support.
 
Based on the information you've provided, I say that it is likely that if you stop using the tamoxifen and continue the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) your condition will reoccur.

From what you've stated, you have likely accomplished two things that have contributed to the elimination of your gyno. First, using the Adex, you drove your estrogen levels down significantly. Over time, that would have by itself provided you some relief. Additionally, by using the tamoxifen after you discontinued the Adex, you introduced a competitive binding option at the estrogen receptors in your breast tissue that were previously available for estrogen binding. The tamoxifen has a higher binding affinity to the estrogen receptor and is now binding in place of any estrogen to the previously affected receptors.

I would not stop using the tamoifen while you are still taking the test. At 120 mgs per week, you obviously hae a very strong inclination for aromitazation and to discontinue the tamoxifen while still using thetest would open up the receptors to estrogen binding again.

If you want to stop using the tamoxifen, reduce your test levels first. I'd suggest you get a blood test to see where you are in terms of test levels now. You will need to lower than where you are now in terms of test levels to mitigate the problem from occurring in the future. Once you get your test levels down, make sure your estrogen levels are also in a normal or acceptable range before you remove the tamoxifen.

How many mgs per day of tamoxifen are you currently using? 10 - 20 mgs a day should be all you need and you can use that dosage for an extend time fame but I would suggest that you use as little tamoxifen as possible to manage the issue since it does have some hepatic impact

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Sorry I dont agree.
he DO NOT have to lower his test, he needs to up his Aromatase inhibitor (AI) dose SLIGHTLY wait a couple of week to make sure estorgen has gone down a bit, before he stops the tamox.
then stop the tamox and continue with your Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) test and Aromatase inhibitor (AI). if needed in a couple weeks up it again. but do so bit by bit to avoid lowering your estrogen too low. then your set for the long term
keep your test as high as you can (125-150mg is pritty damin low so thats why i dotn agree), but control your estrogen.

thats my op anyway...



totally agree, that is a low dose of test id double that as well as taking low dose of tam and it will clear up in a week or two.. high test = no boobs ;)
 
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