This thread is for informational purposes only, any recommendations you may have are not valid at this point as I am almost done the cycle and do not care to be one-upped.
After contracting carpal tunnel syndrom like effects back in January I decided to add nandrolone for collagen synthesis into a test/ Tbol Anavar cycle. Keep in mind I am not a body builder but merely have therapeutic benefits and explosiveness in mind for the overall goal
stats:
21 yo I know I am too young to be fooling with gear. I have been working out hard for 8 years (Taught by my father a former strength lifter and I have been taking lifting courses since I was 15 and I have just completed a kinesiology degree, so I do have a good idea what I am doing save three shitty first cycles, but I was young, dumb, and too reckless to take advice like most of you at my age
Before
6'1
205lbs (have been up to 230lbs. but mass is not my thing)
Cycle history:
winstrol (oral) 50mgs a day for 7 weeks (clomid protocol)
oxandrolone (oral) 30 mgs a day for 4 weeks (clomid protocol)
test/ winstrol cycle: test 250mgs weeks 1-4, 5-8 500mgs, winstrol weeks 4-9 50 mgs/day. post cycle therapy (pct) nolvadex weeks 10-14 tapered amount from 60mg
Cycle length: 20 weeks
Breakdown
T-bol 1-4 50mgs/day (I would never use T bol again, I didn't notice a damn thing, maybe it was just the brand but I stayed with the same LAB and everything else worked like a charm. Any experiences with T-BOL?)
test 400 1-20 400mgs/week
hcg week 12 500iu/day x5 consecutive days
deca- weeks 1-17 300mg/week
Anavar weeks 12-20 45 mg/day
hcg week 20 500iu x last five days of cycle
adex- as needed
post cycle therapy (pct)- clomid and probably will pick up some nova just to come back aggressively
5-6 weeks total
Currently on week 18 of cycle
Gains so far: No more numbness of left hand fingers still slight numbness of right middle finger and right ring finger but compared to before cycle amazing improvement. (prior to cycle when i jerked off I could not even tell it was my hand doing the jerking haha meaning it was fully numb). Vertical jump increase from 27 inches- 36inchs (I now jump like a black man haha). Bench press increase to 340lbs from 300 even. Squat increase from 305x 10 reps (deep) to 405x6 reps.
Weight: At week 12 I tipped the scale at a strong 230, however I still like to keep some cardio and have adjusted diet and increase high level intense cardio to bring me down to 215lbs. For me it is the perfect weight. If I kept on eating like a horse I am confident I would be 245lbs plus by this point in time but then vertical jump and cardio would suffer and I can not have that due to my lifestyle and personal goals.
Diet: 3000-5000 kcal/day depending on daily output and goals (weeks 1-12 more bulk, 12+ cutting mentality.
Supplements- BCAAs, Omega 3's, vitamins, chromium, glutamine, milk thistle glucosamine, etc
All in all I am extremely pleased with this cycle so far, and have regained almost all of the feeling in my hands from carpel tunnel syndrome which was the only reason I added in the deca. I would not have used otherwise. However I am suspecting that the winstrol I have used in the past could possibly have brought on the carpel tunnel syndrome. This is cause and effect which does not prove causation just a hunch. Feel free to ask questions and remember before you ask why I didn't maximize my mass remember I am not a body builder, I am an explosive fiend looking to increase my knockout power for boxing. Thanks for reading brothers in needles,
VPS
After contracting carpal tunnel syndrom like effects back in January I decided to add nandrolone for collagen synthesis into a test/ Tbol Anavar cycle. Keep in mind I am not a body builder but merely have therapeutic benefits and explosiveness in mind for the overall goal
stats:
21 yo I know I am too young to be fooling with gear. I have been working out hard for 8 years (Taught by my father a former strength lifter and I have been taking lifting courses since I was 15 and I have just completed a kinesiology degree, so I do have a good idea what I am doing save three shitty first cycles, but I was young, dumb, and too reckless to take advice like most of you at my age
Before
6'1
205lbs (have been up to 230lbs. but mass is not my thing)
Cycle history:
winstrol (oral) 50mgs a day for 7 weeks (clomid protocol)
oxandrolone (oral) 30 mgs a day for 4 weeks (clomid protocol)
test/ winstrol cycle: test 250mgs weeks 1-4, 5-8 500mgs, winstrol weeks 4-9 50 mgs/day. post cycle therapy (pct) nolvadex weeks 10-14 tapered amount from 60mg
Cycle length: 20 weeks
Breakdown
T-bol 1-4 50mgs/day (I would never use T bol again, I didn't notice a damn thing, maybe it was just the brand but I stayed with the same LAB and everything else worked like a charm. Any experiences with T-BOL?)
test 400 1-20 400mgs/week
hcg week 12 500iu/day x5 consecutive days
deca- weeks 1-17 300mg/week
Anavar weeks 12-20 45 mg/day
hcg week 20 500iu x last five days of cycle
adex- as needed
post cycle therapy (pct)- clomid and probably will pick up some nova just to come back aggressively
5-6 weeks total
Currently on week 18 of cycle
Gains so far: No more numbness of left hand fingers still slight numbness of right middle finger and right ring finger but compared to before cycle amazing improvement. (prior to cycle when i jerked off I could not even tell it was my hand doing the jerking haha meaning it was fully numb). Vertical jump increase from 27 inches- 36inchs (I now jump like a black man haha). Bench press increase to 340lbs from 300 even. Squat increase from 305x 10 reps (deep) to 405x6 reps.
Weight: At week 12 I tipped the scale at a strong 230, however I still like to keep some cardio and have adjusted diet and increase high level intense cardio to bring me down to 215lbs. For me it is the perfect weight. If I kept on eating like a horse I am confident I would be 245lbs plus by this point in time but then vertical jump and cardio would suffer and I can not have that due to my lifestyle and personal goals.
Diet: 3000-5000 kcal/day depending on daily output and goals (weeks 1-12 more bulk, 12+ cutting mentality.
Supplements- BCAAs, Omega 3's, vitamins, chromium, glutamine, milk thistle glucosamine, etc
All in all I am extremely pleased with this cycle so far, and have regained almost all of the feeling in my hands from carpel tunnel syndrome which was the only reason I added in the deca. I would not have used otherwise. However I am suspecting that the winstrol I have used in the past could possibly have brought on the carpel tunnel syndrome. This is cause and effect which does not prove causation just a hunch. Feel free to ask questions and remember before you ask why I didn't maximize my mass remember I am not a body builder, I am an explosive fiend looking to increase my knockout power for boxing. Thanks for reading brothers in needles,
VPS
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