Test Deca D Bol 4th Cycle

[jdking014]

Hi everyone I am new here. I signed Up hoping to get some good lagit advice.... I have done 4 cycles and have been lifting for about 4 years. I am about to start my deca test d bol cycle and just want some reactions or thoughts. I have typicallly ran 750 mg test on every cycle. I have never ran deca though. The cycle i am thinking of goes like this....
weeks 1-6 test cyp 750mg wk
weeks1-6 deca 400 mg week
weeks 1-4 d bol 50 mg ed
weeks 6-11 test 1000mg wk
weeks 6-11 deca 500mg wk
weeks 12-14 test 750mg wk
weeks 12-14 deca 400mg wk

the reason for the pyrimid is because i have noticed on all of my cycles i tend to gain extremely fast my first 6 weeks which is odd because test doesnt kick in till about week 3 or 4. But then i spend a lot of the time on the remainder of my cycle just maintaining my 20 pounds i gained??!! i eat 400 grams protien a day and intake 4000 colories a day. very clean diet. Im hoping this will allow me to keep gainning throughout my cycle....... Thoughts Advice????

 

[DADAWG]

Hi everyone I am new here. I signed Up hoping to get some good lagit advice.... I have done 4 cycles and have been lifting for about 4 years. I am about to start my deca test d bol cycle and just want some reactions or thoughts. I have typicallly ran 750 mg test on every cycle. I have never ran deca though. The cycle i am thinking of goes like this....
weeks 1-6 test cyp 750mg wk
weeks1-6 deca 400 mg week
weeks 1-4 d bol 50 mg ed
weeks 6-11 test 1000mg wk
weeks 6-11 deca 500mg wk
weeks 12-14 test 750mg wk
weeks 12-14 deca 400mg wk

the reason for the pyrimid is because i have noticed on all of my cycles i tend to gain extremely fast my first 6 weeks which is odd because test doesnt kick in till about week 3 or 4. But then i spend a lot of the time on the remainder of my cycle just maintaining my 20 pounds i gained??!! i eat 400 grams protien a day and intake 4000 colories a day. very clean diet. Im hoping this will allow me to keep gainning throughout my cycle....... Thoughts Advice????

welcome to ology


pyramiding is a waste .
you say you eat 4000 calories a day and 400 grams of protein a day and after 20 pounds you stop growing , you have answered the question to your own problem in a way. the amount of calories it takes to grow at the start of a cycle is way less than after you gain 20 pounds , the bigger you get the more you have to eat to grow or at least maintain that size.
as the weight goes up = add more calories to contunue to grow

 

[jdking014]

deca test d bol 4th cycle

I def see what your saying..... you honestly dont think a bump in the dosage would do any good?? what do you think for a solid post cycle therapy (pct) for this cycle may look like?? def want to keep as much of my gains as possable! Ive never had a problem with any sides in any of my cycles mind you. no acne no limp dick no gyno so should i be concerned with this cycle about those sides? Again Thank you for advice! much appreciated.

 

[GunLawsSuck]

Do away with the pyramid..use the extra to stack your current levels equally. I believe the quick response your getting in the first few weeks is the Dbol. That shit will hit you hard and fast and about the time your stopping it is when your test is just starting to kick in. I agree with Dawg on you should pile in more calories as well. Your near 2:1 ratio on test to deca is perfect to keep your dick hard.
Good luck.

 

[DADAWG]

I def see what your saying..... you honestly dont think a bump in the dosage would do any good?? what do you think for a solid post cycle therapy (pct) for this cycle may look like?? def want to keep as much of my gains as possable! Ive never had a problem with any sides in any of my cycles mind you. no acne no limp dick no gyno so should i be concerned with this cycle about those sides? Again Thank you for advice! much appreciated.

i like clomid for post cycle therapy (pct) but a clomid / nolva combo should be fine as well.

start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after the last cyp injection / 3 weeks after the last deca injection and run it 3-4 weeks , clomid at 50 mg every day and if nolva is added 20-40 mg every day.
i truly believe that you should pick a dose and just run it from start to finish , i think not adding calories is whats stalling you out after a while in your cycle.

 

[GunLawsSuck]

Im a fan of the nolvadex myself...you can run it at 20 mgs ed for weeks 1-6 of pct. I dont think there are any studies showing a synergy between clomid and nolva to justify running them at the same time. Youll get the same effect out of 20 mg of nolva compared to 150 mg of clomid. Run 20 mg of aromasin,if available, at 25 mg ed for weeks 1-3. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at 500 iu ed for weeks 1-3 or actually 20 days if you get 10000iu. Take extra Vitamin E weeks 1-3 as it will increase your blood plasma response to the Hcg. The aromasin is used to battle the extra estrogen that will be present from the hcg. Dont use Arimidex or Letrozole as your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) since the Nolva will decrease the blood plasma levels of them.

 

[jdking014]

Thank you very much for the reponses.... i am going to take the advice on the colories intake. i will set colories to start with at 4000 and bump it up to 5500 after weeks 6.... i am going to stay away from the pyrimid as well and just run test at 1000 a week which i know is high but i naturally have low test levels to begin with as i have been tested for... when i did 500 a week it was a horrable cycle because of that. i did 750 a week and had great gains.. and i got the gear for 1000 a week so lets go at it ya know. I know this is horrable but i have not used clomid or nolva before as i havent had too. I have never ran into any sides at all. i am having a hard time getting ahold of clomid but im not gonna touch anything till i find it because i have never used deca.... im going to run deca at 500 mg a week as well for 12 weeks... that long enough? and test at 1000mg for 14 weeks.... if gyno does occur during cycle what should i take? i heard nolva is bad during deca d bol cycle but not bad post cycle true?

 

[doitright24]

clomid is going to do nothing at all for any sides brought on by deca. who told you that? i hope i read that pct suggestion wrong too, using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during pct? Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is suppresive, do not use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during pct bro. you need to do more research instead of getting on here and asking others to build your pct for you.

what are your stats? 1g of test a week is too high for you. way too high. no need for that much test. you will have sides from that. you have all this planed out, but have no idea what to take if gyno rears its head? come on bro, you are not ready to run a cycle......do more research......

 

[jdking014]

doitright.... number one you dont know me or what type of cycles i have done... number two i know exactly what the research tells me what to take for pct... clomid nolva... number three i was asking from people personal expierences what worked best for them... not lookin for them to build my pct just reserching EVEN MORE to find out whats been proven to be the best. number FOUR I have low natural test levels if you read the thread you would know that! i have run 2 cycles at 750mg a week. and ive done 1000 before as well and NO SIDES. I have done more research on lifting and aas use than you would believe. i started reserching about it 8 years ago in the marines with plent of marines that had great knowledge of it as well and use of it. Number FIVE no one said ANYTHING about using CLOMID during this CYCLE! are you blind????wow please dont talk doitright. Now if you gun law suck wants to reply with a good smart post as he did that is great!! as well as dadawg! thank you both for you replies that actually made sence! and for taking the time to actually read the POST! lol... hope to hear from you two.... doitright hahah wow

 

[mikeyc123]

I thought the whole point of these websites was to help out beginners, intermediate and advanced? So what if someone asks you to build their stack or post cycle therapy (pct) cycle, diet etc....???