Test E, Deca, Dbol Cycle.. Any advice?

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Dylan0827

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How's it goin guys, I decided to drop the HGH cycle, and wait until I'm a little older, seemed like it was unnecessary the more I read. Ive decided to jump onto Test E, Deca, and Dbol..

Test week 1-10 750mg
Deca week 1-8 500mg
Dbol week 1-4 i was considering taking them 20mg for the first week, 30 mg for the second and 3rd week, and 40mg for 11 days to finish the bottle.. worth experimenting with or should i just take a steady amount for 4 weeks?

I have met a knew link, who sold "spec labs" .. there are no signs of it being fake, just curious if anyone has ever heard of them? has the exp date on the vial and the top does not twist, but i haven't read anyone posting about it? specbiomed.com is on the vial but when i goto the website it isn't legit?

I have done previous cycles in the past, ive been off for roughly a year, and built my way up to a current 206 pounds, at 5'9, 12% BF.. anything any of you would change in this cycle? Also, i have NEVER once used PCT, never any issues in the past, but im always prepared incase of anything.. ive done 1000 mg of a test only cycle per week, and still nothing, is there any reasoning behind that?

thanks guys!
 
Just because you haven't had any problems from not doing a pct, doesn't mean everythings ok. You need to get bloodwork done to know for sure.

You need to run deca longer than 8 weeks. How old are you?
 
Dylan0827 said:
How's it goin guys, I decided to drop the HGH cycle, and wait until I'm a little older, seemed like it was unnecessary the more I read. Ive decided to jump onto Test E, Deca, and Dbol..

Test week 1-10 750mg
Deca week 1-8 500mg
Dbol week 1-4 i was considering taking them 20mg for the first week, 30 mg for the second and 3rd week, and 40mg for 11 days to finish the bottle.. worth experimenting with or should i just take a steady amount for 4 weeks?

I have met a knew link, who sold "spec labs" .. there are no signs of it being fake, just curious if anyone has ever heard of them? has the exp date on the vial and the top does not twist, but i haven't read anyone posting about it? specbiomed.com is on the vial but when i goto the website it isn't legit?

I have done previous cycles in the past, ive been off for roughly a year, and built my way up to a current 206 pounds, at 5'9, 12% BF.. anything any of you would change in this cycle? Also, i have NEVER once used PCT, never any issues in the past, but im always prepared incase of anything.. ive done 1000 mg of a test only cycle per week, and still nothing, is there any reasoning behind that?

thanks guys!
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Dylan,

Do you know the chances that you fully recovered? Zero. There is no possible way (unless you're superman) that you fully recovered. Even with PCT, so your statement of "not having issues" is not accurate. We don't gauge recovery by the ability to achieve an erection. I strongly suggest that you become responsible to yourself, and administer cycle therapy. If you feel good now, don't think you're out of the woods. These hormonal changes without an attempt at recovery will soon catch up to you and you will be married to a needle for the rest of your life.

The longer you wait, the more chance you'll never recover. This is not random, it's tried, tested and studied methods by the most knowledgeable physicians and scientists in the industry. You're not going to defy these laws. Be smart, my friend, I urge you.
 
What everyone has already said.

1) How old are you?
2) To get the full benefit of Deca your cycle should be longer, like 2X
3) PCT is not 'Optional'
4) I would ramp up the dbol dosage. I like to take the full amount pre-workout. Experiment to see what feels good. Start low and work your way up.
 
hey guys, thanks for all the quick responses! i am 22 years old, i guess i have been a little ignorant about PCT excluding it from my body. I will definitely look into getting some PCT (which i am unsure of how to use) but i will definitely read into it, and get some blood tests done to ensure everything is okay.. i will also lengthen the dosage of my Deca and Test longer than what I have stated. If possible, could i continue the same dosage but run

Test E 16 weeks at 750mg
Deca 14 weeks at 500 mg
Dbol 4 weeks at 50 mg
And PCT will be researched as soon as possible along with blood tests

Thanks everyone.
 
how did you get the idea that it was ok to run a cycle and not pct??
did some 60 year old bodybuilding vet give you advice?
 
Just trying to understand the logic behind why you wouldn't run it? We're you given bad advice or did u not know any better?
 
I was ignorant about steroids when i first started them, I am unsure why i even bothered, i would cycle and never maintain what i have gained.. I stopped taking gear October of 2012, for that exact reason, I felt like I had a lot to learn, hence why I finally joined this site. I would gain 15 pounds and lose 20, i was rather immature.. Since october I have actually gained roughly 25 pounds naturally and lowered my BF% , been going to the gym 5-6 days a week with proper supplements, working my ass off, I have some training partners, and my diet has been really great, I no longer smoke, or drink. I completely understand why everyone on these sites dont support any of the younger ones using it because of exactly my past. I have certainly come a long way since using, and I am ready because nothing has distracted me or stopped my training since opening my eyes. I still have a lot to learn no doubt, in which talking to you all would definitely benefit me. I have hit a plateau with my body, at 210, 5'9 right now, but my main goal is to hit the 230 mark, and then do my first ever cutting cycle.
 
3J said:
Just trying to understand the logic behind why you wouldn't run it? We're you given bad advice or did u not know any better?
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No offence 3J, Your a respected guy here I understand that but did you know that. 4/4 doctors ive talked to have said the body will restart itself after an anabolic cycle and theres no need for post cycle therapy (pct). Docs have also said that steroids have no effect whatsoever on male infertility etc etc. They believe the body is a fantastic and smart/clever machine and will restart its own test production. So bare in mind that logic to, that's coming from at least 4 doctors ive talked to just for shits and giggles. lol.
 
toco said:
No offence 3J, Your a respected guy here I understand that but did you know that. 4/4 doctors ive talked to have said the body will restart itself after an anabolic cycle and theres no need for post cycle therapy (pct). Docs have also said that steroids have no effect whatsoever on male infertility etc etc. They believe the body is a fantastic and smart/clever machine and will restart its own test production. So bare in mind that logic to, that's coming from at least 4 doctors ive talked to just for shits and giggles. lol.
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what specialties were those doctors in.. were they endos? did they run Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) clinics?
 
toco said:
No offence 3J, Your a respected guy here I understand that but did you know that. 4/4 doctors ive talked to have said the body will restart itself after an anabolic cycle and theres no need for post cycle therapy (pct). Docs have also said that steroids have no effect whatsoever on male infertility etc etc. They believe the body is a fantastic and smart/clever machine and will restart its own test production. So bare in mind that logic to, that's coming from at least 4 doctors ive talked to just for shits and giggles. lol.
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Doctors are famously stubborn and will deny deny deny any knowledge they didn't learn in med school. The medical field is constantly updating and many of them are far behind current ideas.
 
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