Test E/EQ/DBol

[BigBear80]

What's up boys, I very rarely post but have done countless hours of reading on this site. A lot of knowledgeable posters that have helped me in the past without even knowing it! Anyway I will get on with it...
Stats- 28 yr old male
6' 2" 222 pounds, 12% bodyfat
Bench-375
Squat-515
Deadlift- Haven't maxed in forever bc it scares me but (335x8)x3 for my workouts
Been lifting since 14, have done 4 cycles in the past, first 2 were 20/21, Sust only with no post cycle therapy (pct), and Sust/EQ with no post cycle therapy (pct). (I know, young and dumb), took about 6 years off and did a Test Prop only at 150mg EOD for 10 weeks w Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct), had solid gains. Second was 4 months ago Sust only 500 mg/wk w/ Nolva and Clomid for post cycle therapy (pct), (Was told that wouldn't be overdoing it) and the gains were decent. I think I am ready for the next level and getting ready to put in my order. Was wondering if you guys would recommend a Test E/DBol/EQ over a Test/Deca/Dbol cycle? I'm looking to add about 15 pounds and increase strength but I don't want to be too bloated with summer coming up and all. Loved the Prop but I've read you are better off taking a longer ester if you are running DBol. Again, thanks a lot for any help.

Was thinking...

Weeks 1-12 Test E 500 mg
Weeks 1-14 EQ 400 mg
Weeks 1-4 DBol 30 mg
Weeks 17-19 post cycle therapy (pct) Clomid/Nolva

Should I run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the at 400 iu/wk with Adex the whole time or start some time mid cycle?

Also, is 30 mg Dbol too low? I figured since I have never used it before I should start small.

 

[OX]

my personal opinion is that 400mg of eq wont do shit for you. I would switch the eq with masteron if it were me....far better results with less compound. Also the eq should be ran atleast a week less then the test. Eq is best used at a minimum of 600mg per week for 16 weeks imo.

I would start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and adex from the getgo...hcg at 500iu twice a week and adex STARTING at .25mg eod. If you can, switch from adex to aromasin after your last shot.

30mg of dbol is fine to start with. That is the absolute minimum I would suggest.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

my personal opinion is that 400mg of eq wont do shit for you. I would switch the eq with masteron if it were me....far better results with less compound. Also the eq should be ran atleast a week less then the test. Eq is best used at a minimum of 600mg per week for 16 weeks imo.

I would start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and adex from the getgo...hcg at 500iu twice a week and adex STARTING at .25mg eod. If you can, switch from adex to aromasin after your last shot.

30mg of dbol is fine to start with. That is the absolute minimum I would suggest.

well posted OX!!! EQ wont do didly do unless its used at 600mg>/week

 

[BigBear80]

my personal opinion is that 400mg of eq wont do shit for you. I would switch the eq with masteron if it were me....far better results with less compound. Also the eq should be ran atleast a week less then the test. Eq is best used at a minimum of 600mg per week for 16 weeks imo.

I would start the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and adex from the getgo...hcg at 500iu twice a week and adex STARTING at .25mg eod. If you can, switch from adex to aromasin after your last shot.

30mg of dbol is fine to start with. That is the absolute minimum I would suggest.

Ok, I can switch the EQ to Masteron, but for how long and at what dosage. This is my first experience really stacking so I don't want to screw it up or over do it.

 

[OX]

Ok, I can switch the EQ to Masteron, but for how long and at what dosage. This is my first experience really stacking so I don't want to screw it up or over do it.

Masteron is really easy to dose and hard to screw up so no worries. You can try it at 300-400. I personally line running it as high as my test. I've also ran it higher then my test and it still worked great. Also, you can get it in an enanthate or prop ester so you can run it the same length you run your test. Masteron has some estro blocking abilities (but is not an ai), it doesn't mess up bp like eq does, and it lowers shbg which put my libido through the roof

 

[bigherm2121]

Eq is pretty much a similar compound to dbol but injectable. Mast is good shit and will cut you up.

 

[bigherm2121]

Masteron is really easy to dose and hard to screw up so no worries. You can try it at 300-400. I personally line running it as high as my test. I've also ran it higher then my test and it still worked great. Also, you can get it in an enanthate or prop ester so you can run it the same length you run your test. Masteron has some estro blocking abilities (but is not an ai), it doesn't mess up bp like eq does, and it lowers shbg which put my libido through the roof

yes this. Good post bro.

 

[BigBear80]

Masteron is really easy to dose and hard to screw up so no worries. You can try it at 300-400. I personally line running it as high as my test. I've also ran it higher then my test and it still worked great. Also, you can get it in an enanthate or prop ester so you can run it the same length you run your test. Masteron has some estro blocking abilities (but is not an ai), it doesn't mess up bp like eq does, and it lowers shbg which put my libido through the roof

Nice, now I'm even more excited! I just liked how EQ made me eat. But after reading up on it I am definitely going to throw this in there. Thanks for the help, much appreciated!

 

[BigBear80]

Eq is pretty much a similar compound to dbol but injectable. Mast is good shit and will cut you up.

Perfect, exactly what I want then. Thanks a lot guys.

 

[BigBear80]

So I am looking at
wk 1-4 Dbol 30-40 mg ED
Wk 1-12 Test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-12 Masteron 400 mg/wk
Wk 1-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500 iu split up twice/week (So every 3-4 days?)
Wk 1-12 ADex .25 mg EOD
Wk 13-17 Aromasin (.25 mg)
Wk 14-18 Nolva/Clomid

Does that sound about right?

 

[OX]

Ya that looks good.

Just do your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) mon and thurs at 500iu each day
Aromasin is 6.25 mg ed.....which I think you meant to say anyway.

 

[gymrat827]

why mast?? hes not stepping on a stage. hes not 8% BF or less. i just dont see what he will get from it?? yeah it will make the test work better, a lil bit of cuts, but nothing drastic til hes real lean, and cutting or at least doing something like carb cycling to recomp. he wants to gain 15lb and not bloat out, so no deca

i would stay EQ, get one more bottle, go 600mg. run the tes e & EQ 14 wks. pct wk 16. going into pct two wks after EQ is great. you still have lots of strength going from it. use a sarm like osta and your strength should stay pretty much the same.

EQ makes your veins come out hard. i used it in sr yr of college and still have everything from that cycle 5 yrs later


wk 1-5 dbol 30-40 mg ED
Wk 1-14 test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-14 EQ 600 mg/wk
Wk 1-15 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500 iu split up twice/week (pin with test, but use slin pin, mon/thur or sun/wed, etc)
Wk 1-21 Aromasin 12mg or 6, based on feel
Wk 16-20 Nolva/clomid



this is what id do.



GL whatever way you take

 

[OX]

why mast?? hes not stepping on a stage. hes not 8% BF or less. i just dont see what he will get from it?? yeah it will make the test work better, a lil bit of cuts, but nothing drastic.

i would stay EQ, get one more bottle, go 600mg. run the tes e & EQ 14 wks. pct wk 16. going into pct two wks after EQ is great. you still have lots of strength going from it. use a sarm like osta and your strength should stay pretty much the same.

EQ makes your veins come out hard. i used it in sr yr of college and still have everything from that cycle 5 yrs later






I am looking at
wk 1-4 dbol 30-40 mg ED
Wk 1-14 test E 500 mg/wk
Wk 1-14 EQ 600 mg/wk
Wk 1-12 Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 500 iu split up twice/week (So every 3-4 days?)

Wk 1-19 Aromasin 12 mg
Wk 14-18 Nolva/clomid



this is what id do.



GL whatever way you take

Hahahaha eq and its cult following....some guys prefer it I suppose. I've used eq at 15% bf and noticed it.

Mast isn't a cutter by the way. It's mainly known for its hardening effects. It also decreases shbg (which increases libido....tell me who doesn't want that ) and decreases estrogen which is like you said, makes the test better. It also does not fuck your bp up like eq (which is probably why your veins stick out more), and it doesn't create more red blood cells which can pose other health risks, and its easy to recover from.

You can do the same thing with mast as you can eq only healthier and better imo.


Ps....you can cut and bulk with any steroid

 

[BigBear80]

Hahahaha eq and its cult following....some guys prefer it I suppose. I've used eq at 15% bf and noticed it.

Mast isn't a cutter by the way. It's mainly known for its hardening effects. It also decreases shbg (which increases libido....tell me who doesn't want that ) and decreases estrogen which is like you said, makes the test better. It also does not fuck your bp up like eq (which is probably why your veins stick out more), and it doesn't create more red blood cells which can pose other health risks, and its easy to recover from.

You can do the same thing with mast as you can eq only healthier and better imo.


Ps....you can cut and bulk with any steroid

Very very helpful, I am gonna roll with this. Prob not gonna start up till mid March, but I will start up a my cycle thread and post my results. Since this is my first time stacking I am expecting some good gains. Thanks again for everything.

 

[OX]

I meant to say I used masteron at 15% bf and noticed it lol

 

[size_matters]

I started a Test E (500mg/wk) EQ (660mg/wk) cycle with proviron 25mg ED and dbol kicker 40mg ED, started on the 1st of january, test E kicked in & can't wait for the EQ to kick in, my hunger has gone way up lately so idk if its the EQ or just because dbol cut my appetite a lot, and now that I'm done the dbol my hunger is back to normal but I am eating a lot, keep up posted on what you choose to do and results you're getting !

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I wouldnt say dbol and EQ are the same, when making a steriod 17AA or methylated it changes the results most of the time. for instance EQ actually helps mediate aroma and does not increase water like dbol does.

masteron is just a side dish, if you want it as the main course you have to run a gram or more.

 

[S & M]

Why everyone Knocks EQ baffles me. I loved my last cycle of EQ. Made me eat and you can run a long cycle. I gained 24lbs last cycle. I would run this again. Long lasting Gains.

I don't want to hear your shit on this OX...........

 

[OX]

Why everyone Knocks EQ baffles me. I loved my last cycle of EQ. Made me eat and you can run a long cycle. I gained 24lbs last cycle. I would run this again. Long lasting Gains.

I don't want to hear your shit on this OX...........

Don't chalk your long lasting gains up to eq when you just ran a 20+ week cycle. Chalk that up to homeostasis and the proper pct you ran. Next cycle run some mast and your opinions will change. Don't knock it till ya try it brotha!

 

[OX]

I wouldnt say dbol and EQ are the same, when making a steriod 17AA or methylated it changes the results most of the time. for instance EQ actually helps mediate aroma and does not increase water like dbol does.

masteron is just a side dish, if you want it as the main course you have to run a gram or more.

Great post brotha!