Test E / EQ / Masteron E

[porscheGT3]

Hey everyone! I'm new on the boards here and I thought I'd post this cycle info and see what everyone has to say. This is not a first cycle and the reason I chose these compounds will follow. First, Test E, I'm looking at dosing 400-500mg weekly (2x/week pin)... Looking to put on some size, but NOT blow up! Secondly, EQ, dosed at 400mg weekly (2x/week pin, stacked w/the Test)... Looking for an increase in RBC count and endurance, add dense muscle, etc. Third, and lastly, Masteron. Most likely Masteron Enanthate, unless others think Propionate would be better suited. The Mast E would be dosed at 400mg weekly as well (2x/week pin, most likely stacked w/the other two, but maybe separately pinned). The reason I want to use Masteron is for a few reasons. First, adding a DHT-based compound that not only is incapable of aromatization, but helps keep aromatizable steroids (i.e., Test and EQ) from undergoing aromatization. (It is said to have the ability to interact w/the aromatase enzyme limiting aromatization.) So basically, Masteron will act as an AI/SERM... Secondly, Masteron will add density and lean mass. Below is what the cycle would look like:

Week 1-12: Test E: 400-500mg weekly
Week 1-12: Mast E: 400mg weekly
Week 1-10: EQ: 400mg weekly

PCT

Week 15-18: Aromisin: ??????????????
Week 15-18: Toremifene: 90/60/60/30

Let me know how you'd dose the Aromasin.

I'm currently about 230 lbs., 6' 2", 9-11% BF. I'm on a cutting regimen now... looking to drop to about 7-8% before I start this cycle. Hopefully add 10 lbs. lean body mass in this cycle. I know you will say EQ should be for at least 12 weeks, but I don't think the extra 2 weeks are worth my time... sorry. BUT, any advice or scrutiny is welcomed and encouraged! Let me hear what you've got to say!

Thanks

 

[White Chocolate]

ok first of all mast is not an anti e. Yes it does have some properties but they are not enough to control estrogen. You need to run an anti e during cycle. If you chose aromasin then a good starting dose is 12.5mg ed. This will need to be titrated throughout your cycle and ran all the way through post cycle therapy (pct). You cant just base the compounds you want to use off of some steroid profile. You want an increase in rbc? Why? You want high blood pressure? In order to get eqs full effects it really needs to be dosed high and ran for 16+ weeks. My advice to you is to drop the eq and stick with the mast e. Mast has so many positives. Does not raise bp, does not aromatize, lowers shbg, increased libido, excellent hardening effects are amongst the ones I come up with off the top of my head.

 

[porscheGT3]

Thanks White Chocolate... I didn't mean for it to sound like I was 100% saying the Mast was an anti-e... but like you said, has some of those properties. I left out writing the possibility of using an anti-e/AI DURING cycle... only b/c it would only be so, if required. My last cycle, I used Test prop. and Mast prop. w/NO anti-e during cycle. 150mg Test/100mg Mast EOD. ZERO sides whatsoever. If I was to drop the EQ, would 400mg Mast E suffice? I say this b/c if I was to use Mast prop. again, I would want to use 600mg... but that's propionate and not enanthate. I'm open to using Aromasin during cycle, but do you think it's 100% necessary?

Thanks

 

[mdella89]

Personally i would drop the EQ and run tren instead with the mast.

that is a killer combo, one i will be trying out for myself probably next cycle. aromasin at 12.5 ED will be fine and bump it to 25 if need be

 

[White Chocolate]

Thanks White Chocolate... I didn't mean for it to sound like I was 100% saying the Mast was an anti-e... but like you said, has some of those properties. I left out writing the possibility of using an anti-e/AI DURING cycle... only b/c it would only be so, if required. My last cycle, I used Test prop. and Mast prop. w/NO anti-e during cycle. 150mg Test/100mg Mast EOD. ZERO sides whatsoever. If I was to drop the EQ, would 400mg Mast E suffice? I say this b/c if I was to use Mast prop. again, I would want to use 600mg... but that's propionate and not enanthate. I'm open to using Aromasin during cycle, but do you think it's 100% necessary?

Thanks

I dont have a problem with people thinking they dont need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). The only way that is ok is if your getting blood work to check your e2 levels as you cant tell how high your estro is without blood work. Signs of gyno is not an accurate measure of the level of estro in the blood. You could add more mast if you wanted, no big deal there but just because you used the same dosage last cycle doesnt mean you have to up this cycles dosages to get gains.

 

[porscheGT3]

The 100mg EOD of Mast Prop averaged 350mg/week... the reason for upping this is b/c very little was noticed at this dose. Do you see any reason to use Mast Prop again, and not Mast E so as to be on the same dosing schedule? ... Benefits to one vs. the other?

 

[White Chocolate]

The 100mg EOD of Mast Prop averaged 350mg/week... the reason for upping this is b/c very little was noticed at this dose. Do you see any reason to use Mast Prop again, and not Mast E so as to be on the same dosing schedule? ... Benefits to one vs. the other?

the difference between mast p and mast e is only the time that it is released in. They are both the same steroid. Ive done them both and I prefer mast e just for the fact that I love long estered gear and the way it compounds itself throughout the cycle...but they are the same steroid

 

[porscheGT3]

Revision

Here's the new cycle revision:

Masteron E: weeks 1-14: 400mg/week
Test E: weeks 1-14: 500mg/week
EQ: weeks 1-12: 600mg/week

Pin twice a week and that's it! ... done. I'd like to know personal opinions on the EQ and what it's done for YOU! I'll probably be starting this in about a month. Gotta finish the diet writeup and supplement list... Also, what supplements do you feel like are a MUST?? Thanks for the input!

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

I love mast I had to run it higher than those dosage 600. Almost worked too well had to up cals fluid intake

 

[porscheGT3]

Were you using Mast prop. or Mast enan. at the 600mg/week dose??

 

[Jack Torsbear4]

Were you using Mast prop. or Mast enan. at the 600mg/week dose??

Prop about a yr ago. Shits expensive too