Test E & Mast P cycle advice (this is my second cycle)

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adie1981

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Hi,

after a very successful first Test E only cycle last year, i am now looking at my next cycle which is going to be Test E and Mast P. I dont want to do Test P as i prefer the long ester. Im wondering what is going to be the best dosage for the mast as ive read that 150mg EOD is perfect but people do 600mg+ which is considered very harsh on cholesterol levels which id like to avoid. but im open to suggestions from peoples experience, currently prepping my body for the mast with alot of HIIT training and weights on other days
my stats are

34 years old
5ft 11"
13.2 stone (dropped from 13.8 stone this month)
BF 14.1% (this has dropped from 15% this month doing alot of HIIT training and weights with a nice clean diet so expect it to drop more by the time i start new cycle)
Gym 5 days a week
football twice a week

Previous Cycle
Test E only 500 per week week 1-12
armidex week 2-11 0.25mg / 0.5mg Eod then non for the last week
hcg 1000iu week 4-12
PCT - clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20
had pre/mid/post bloods done and all were good.

New cycle
Test E 500 week 1-12
Mast P 500 week 2-12
Armidex on hand but the mast should be more than enough to control the estrogen/gyno/water retention and high blood pressure.
Hcg 1000iu week 4-12
Var 50mg ED week 8-12
PCT - clomid 100/100/40/40 and nolva 40/40/20/20

Im open to adjustments or suggestions.

thanks
 
Mast is not an ai and don't run it like one. You will most likely need to run an ai. I looked over your first cycle and noticed you stopped your ai and hcg on last week of pin. You should run both up to pct. Just because it's your last pin doesn't mean you don't have elevated test levels. Mast is ran at a minimum of 600mgs per week. The ai effect is very insignificant. Nothing replaces an ai but an ai. Do some more research on it...
 
tbonexl said:
Mast is not an ai and don't run it like one. You will most likely need to run an ai. I looked over your first cycle and noticed you stopped your ai and hcg on last week of pin. You should run both up to pct. Just because it's your last pin doesn't mean you don't have elevated test levels. Mast is ran at a minimum of 600mgs per week. The ai effect is very insignificant. Nothing replaces an ai but an ai. Do some more research on it...
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thanks for your reply mate,
I only stopped the AI towards the end because i had low estrogen levels at mid cycle so i dropped to .25mg eod and then didnt take it at all for the back end of the cycle, maybe this was a mistake after reading what you said. As for the HCG, no i did this right upto the last pin, my last pin was a thursday in week 12 and i did a big dosage of hcg the same day, i will always do hcg right upto the last pin.

As for my cycle, would you agree it looks good but up the masteron to 600mg per week and throw some AI in there again?
 
Yea you look like you body fat is low enuff. With mast being dosed at 100mgs, are you planning on pinning daily?
 
Listen Test at 500mg wk you will need an AI. The Mast will not decrease the E2 level or keep it in check ( not an AI as said) it just doesn't aromatize so just keep the BW in check.

You look good in your pic and are on the right path. As you KNOW your diet is most important. If you want to be a little leaner while building with the Test do some aerobic exercise at the END of your workout and it will burn some fat off. And you will loose a little more subcutaneous water as you sweat.

With the Mast not adding any more water and you with good diet, with correct amount of calories and a good workout routine should put on a little LMM as you lean out. Mast should be run at no less than 600mg wk for any worth while benefits from that compound. I like the cycle with just Test and Mast. Good luck
 
oldmusclemike said:
Listen Test at 500mg wk you will need an AI. The Mast will not decrease the E2 level or keep it in check ( not an AI as said) it just doesn't aromatize so just keep the BW in check.

You look good in your pic and are on the right path. As you KNOW your diet is most important. If you want to be a little leaner while building with the Test do some aerobic exercise at the END of your workout and it will burn some fat off. And you will loose a little more subcutaneous water as you sweat.

With the Mast not adding any more water and you with good diet, with correct amount of calories and a good workout routine should put on a little LMM as you lean out. Mast should be run at no less than 600mg wk for any worth while benefits from that compound. I like the cycle with just Test and Mast. Good luck
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Thanks mate, i was planning on doing 450mg mast per week with it being the first time im adding a compound to test, apparently 450mg per week is classed as high dosage. im not sure what to do with the dosage now :/
 
hi

ok so 1 week into my new cycle and ive a question regarding HCG.

Test E 500mg per week (250mg twice a week)
Mast P 600mg per week (200mg eod)

i have got my HCG 1500iu per vial, i have mixed all my hcg with the water provided in the same box. my question is this

i was thinking of starting hcg week 2 @ 1500iu once a week, but is week 2 too early or should i start at week 4??
 
adie1981 said:
Hi,

after a very successful first Test E only cycle last year, i am now looking at my next cycle which is going to be Test E and Mast P. I dont want to do Test P as i prefer the long ester. Im wondering what is going to be the best dosage for the mast as ive read that 150mg EOD is perfect but people do 600mg+ which is considered very harsh on cholesterol levels which id like to avoid. but im open to suggestions from peoples experience, currently prepping my body for the mast with alot of HIIT training and weights on other days
my stats are

34 years old
5ft 11"
13.2 stone (dropped from 13.8 stone this month)
BF 14.1% (this has dropped from 15% this month doing alot of HIIT training and weights with a nice clean diet so expect it to drop more by the time i start new cycle)
Gym 5 days a week
football twice a week

Previous Cycle
Test E only 500 per week week 1-12
armidex week 2-11 0.25mg / 0.5mg Eod then non for the last week
hcg 1000iu week 4-12
PCT - clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20
had pre/mid/post bloods done and all were good.

New cycle
Test E 500 week 1-12
Mast P 500 week 2-12
Armidex on hand but the mast should be more than enough to control the estrogen/gyno/water retention and high blood pressure.
Hcg 1000iu week 4-12
Var 50mg ED week 8-12
PCT - clomid 100/100/40/40 and nolva 40/40/20/20

Im open to adjustments or suggestions.

thanks
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Test e 1-12 500
Mast p 1-6 500
Mast p 7-12 800mg
Var - 7-12 50-70mg ed
Adex .5 eod
And hcg is pinned twice a week correct?
 
Macedog24 said:
Test e 1-12 500
Mast p 1-6 500
Mast p 7-12 800mg
Var - 7-12 50-70mg ed
Adex .5 eod
And hcg is pinned twice a week correct?
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no ill be doing the hcg once a week, i did this my last cycle but just 1000iu per week from week 4. so my question is is it advisable to start hcg in week 2 or shall i start it week 4 again?????

people have told me the test doesnt kick in till week 4 so thats when its best to start the hcg, but i thought id get some opinions on here and make sure i do it correct.

with regards to armidex, i do have this and did it on my last cycle, but with mast lowering the estrogen levels aswell wouldnt .5 eod be too high a dosage potentially lowering my estrogen to the point of crashing with the mast????

thanks for your help
 
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