Test E + Tbol + anavar cycle let's see what you think about it

[ScarsxX]

Hi, Im weight lifting for 2 years now. I'm 24, 5ft7, 170 pounds, 14% bf. Looking to build lean mass and adjust my diet to cut for the last 4 week. Here is the cycle. Feel free to comment on it.
Thanks.

Week 1-2 Test E @ 500mg EW + Tbol 30mg ED + Adex .25mg eod
Week 2-4 Test E @ 500mg EW + Tbol 40mg ED + Adex .25mg eod
Week 4-10 Test E @ 500mg EW + Adex .25 ( If needed )
Week 10-12 Test E @ 500mg EW + Anavar 40mg ED + Adex .25 eod
Week 12-14 Anavar@ 40mg ED + Adex .25 ( If needed )
Week 14-18 Nolvadex + Clomid @ 40-40-20-20 - 100-100-50-50

Not sure about the HCG ? 500iu ew from week 4 or what ? If it's not an obligation I'm not gonna buy it.
Liv.52 + fish oil ?

Is it a good cycle ?

 

[Milton]

Welcome to the boards, where did you get the basis for this cycle? Is this your first cycle? Have you had blood work done?

 

[ScarsxX]

Thanks my friend.I figured it out after reading and adjusting. I'll start it on may 1st. It's my first cycle yes. Blood work done. Everything's fine. I dont have a copy of it but the doctors said everything was fine so I'm ready. I wanted to frontload at 1000mg first injection but after that I decided to kickstart with dbol, but the water retention and the bloats are not something that I want to deal with so I've put some tbol instead. and 6 weeks between the two orals seems to be good. 4 weeks var at the end with a good diet to cut some fat and add vascularity. I'm not sure about the HCG and the arimidex. .25 eod or if needed ?Tbol and var doesnt seem to aromatize. 25 3cc syringe 20g 1'' and 25 23g 1'' needles. I'll inject in my quads so will it be better with 23g 1''5 ? Sorry for my english, it's not my first language.

 

[fitguy22]

You need to do longer then just 4 weeks of var if u want any results.
As your first cycle u should do just test, u will get the same or better results with one compound rather then 3.

Arimidex is fine at that dosage u can always up it to 0.5 eod if need be.
Hcg will be at 500ui a week from day one till start of pct

 

[ScarsxX]

So if I do 6 weeks of var will it be better ?


Week 1-2 Test E @ 500mg EW + Tbol 30mg ED + Adex .25mg eod
Week 2-4 Test E @ 500mg EW + Tbol 40mg ED + Adex .25mg eod
Week 4-8 Test E @ 500mg EW + Adex .25 ( If needed )
Week 8-12 Test E @ 500mg EW + Anavar 40mg ED + Adex .25 eod
Week 12-14 Anavar@ 40mg ED + Adex .25 ( If needed )
Week 14-18 Nolvadex + Clomid @ 40-40-20-20 - 100-100-50-50 + HCG 500iu EW.

Anything else ?

 

[fitguy22]

Yeah i think 6 weeks would be better and chose one oral.
Two orals on a cycle is bad for ur liver

 

[ScarsxX]

Yes I know, but Anavar is light and turinabol is mid and with 4 weeks between them + liv.52 it will probably not be that bad ?

What would you recommend me ? I've planned to lean bulk from week 1 to 8 at 3500kcal and reduce the calories to maintenance at 2600kcal from weeks 8 to 14 and with the var it seems to be a great combo considering the half life of testosterone. that's why I've had anavar for two weeks after last injection.

 

[fitguy22]

it won't be so bad But why take a risk when it comes to your health.
id say either extend your test e to 16 weeks and give your self 4 week break in between tbol and var OR drop one of the two orals.
id personally do test for 12 weeks at 500 mg a week, get some diet help from 3j and add var for the last 6-8 weeks to end the cycle.

 

[ScarsxX]

No kickstart nor frontloading ?

 

[fitguy22]

I'm doing a similar cycle, starting next month, of test e 500 mg week for 12 weeks with var from week 4-12.
not going to use anything for kick start....thats u i suggested that because var towards the end has helped me before plus its safer on liver to do one oral.

maybe someone more experienced can chim in.
good luck,bro.

 

[ScarsxX]

Thanks man you too. I think for the moment I'll stay with the kickstart or maybe add some test P instead. We'll see, 15 days before cycle. Man I can't wait.

 

[fitguy22]

adding test p won't be a bad idea.
but u have way too many compounds in for ur cycle though.

 

[ScarsxX]

Yes I know. But as you know summer is coming very fast ( Insert kiddy Cliché here) and I want to Bulk and add a good mass since I'm lean bulking from september 2015 I need to put more mass and cut too. I don't want to waste my testosterone with a slightly under maintenance calories intake. I've add the kick start to not lose 4 weeks ( It's 1 month... ) and I'm gonna eat between 3500-4000kcal to build a good amount of muscle without too many fat. and from week 9 - 14 I'll add Anavar @ 40 mg to decrease my calorie intake to 2800-3000kcal ( I will adjust with my new weight maintenance ) To keep the Test gains and add some definition and vascularity while losing fat.

 

[fitguy22]

well start the var at 8 weeks rather then 9th week because you can run it for 6 weeks but make sure ur taking liver support sup.
i got one that has nac and milk thistle. look into.View attachment 564249

 

[Big_rich]

Why ask for advice on your cycle but then stick to your cycle when advised differently. Your not looking for critique with one cycle I would only run one oral

 

[3J]

so youre going to bulk on this cycle and start cutting right before pct???

thats horrible planning

 

[ScarsxX]

so youre going to bulk on this cycle and start cutting right before pct???

thats horrible planning

I was planning to do it 6 weeks before pct in addition of var.

But I've put the tbol away so no kickstarter and I'll probably put the var away too and do a simple lean bulk test E only cycle.

It seems to be the way to go for a first cycle. I have 3 x 250mg»ML°10ML test E vials + Arimidex 1mg x30. HCG to prevent testicle shutdown ?
PCT Nolva + Clomid = Will I keep my gains with this PCT and no HCG during cycle ? Sorry to ask the same question again but I'm confuse because some people are saying that I need to take HCG during cycle to prevent shutdown and keep more gains and others are saying that it's absolutely not needed on such a simple cycle... And what about preventing HPTA damage ?

Thanks, Jo

 

[fitguy22]

HCG is always during the cycle. everyone will tell u the same thing. it prevents atrophy and when you do pct your testis start working faster and you have a better chance at recovery.
pct will be only clomid and nolva.

monday am 250mg 1 ml test e
thursday pm 250mg 1 ml test e
day 1 o.2 ai
day 3 0.25mg ai
day 6 0.25 mg ai....... you monitor your body see if you need to up the dose of an ai.

no cycle is a simple cycle, every cycle has a chance of shutting you down forever. best you can do is take every pre caution, starting with not doing too many orals .


good luck

 

[ScarsxX]

Thanks fitguy. I will buy hcg .

Thanks everyone.


week 1-12 test E @500mg EW
HCG from week 4 to 12 @ 500iu EW in two dose of 250 mg.
Adex .25 e3d and I will adjust after 6 weeks when my 2nd bloodwork will be done
PCT week 14-18 - Nolvadex + Clomid @ 40-40-20-20 & 100-100-50-50

Insulin needle for the hcg and 25 20g 1'' syringe and 25 23g 1'' syringe. Will inject in Quads.

I'll update the post with my cycle log after 2 weeks.

 

[fitguy22]

you will know before the bloods if you need to up the dosage.
usually when i see my face getting puffy way too much i up the dose just a lil bit lol