Test E/Tren/Dbol

[bull5]

Focusing on strength, power and size (in that order). i have two cycles expierience my first cycle was winstrol 100mg ED for 7 weeks and my second cycle was winstrol 60 mg ED stacked with dianabol 30 mg ED for 6 weeks.

I have never taken testosterone before so am somewhat unsure about dosage as most would recommend 500mg EW to someone new to it but i weigh in at 285 pounds so logically i thought i might need more than the typical novice.

the cycle is planned to look like this so far:

Test Enanthate 750mg EW (debating between 500 and 750)
Tren 100mg EOD(debating between 75 and 100)
Dbol 50mg ED

all comments/advice is appreciated!

 

[nickd84]

Damn did you do any bloodwork after your 2 pervious cycles? I bet your lipids were f*cked up.

Anyways just start out with 500mg thats plenty even at you weight. I dont think you are ready for Tren especially if you havent ran Test. Tren is some crazy sh*t. How long is this cycle projected to be?

 

[zephyrdaz]

Don't run Tren for a first cycle, it's a very strong steroid with very harsh sides and you really need a lot more exerience with gear before you take it.

I know your a big guy, but just go with 500mg of Test E or Test C, split in to 2 jabs of 250mg one on Mon and one on Thurs for 12 weeks, it's more than enough for you don't worry.

What are your plans for PCT?

I know you've used dbol before, but just see how you get on with the test. If you really want to use it then just run it from weeks 1-6 at 50mg ED and split the doesage through the day.

Also can you tell us how old are you? bf% and training history?

 

[bull5]

Im 23 years old bodyfat is fairly high (never got it done) but it isnt an issue because i am not a bodybuilder and am not doing this to enhance my physique, but rather for strength and power.

my strength stats are as follows:

Bench Press:435
Squat: 500x5 (hams to calfs)
Deadlift: 585

I will be running HCG throughout the cycle starting week 3 at 250iu's twice a week.

what is so bad about tren btw? is the strength gain worth the sides?

 

[zephyrdaz]

Im 23 years old bodyfat is fairly high (never got it done) but it isnt an issue because i am not a bodybuilder and am not doing this to enhance my physique, but rather for strength and power.

my strength stats are as follows:

Bench Press:435
Squat: 500x5 (hams to calfs)
Deadlift: 585

I will be running HCG throughout the cycle starting week 3 at 250iu's twice a week.

what is so bad about tren btw? is the strength gain worth the sides?

Mate I've advised you not to use Tren for good reason. This is a very strong steroid. You really need at lot more experience on how your body responds to steroids before doing Tren. You have not even experienced post cycle therapy (pct) yet and Tren can also be hard to recover from. As to sides, then yes they can be very harsh for some.

You'll get all the strength and power you need from Test alone.

You have not answered my question, What are you doing for post cycle therapy (pct)? HCG is not post cycle therapy (pct)

 

[bull5]

PCT is planned to look as follows:

Week/Nolvadex/Aromasin

1/20mg ED/20mg ED
2/20mg ED/20mg ED
3/20mg ED/20mg ED
4/20mg ED/20mg ED
5/20mg ED/20mg ED
6/20mg ED/-

 

[Cakalac]

I know you've used dbol before, but just see how you get on with the test. If you really want to use it then just run it from weeks 1-6 at 50mg ED and split the doesage through the day.

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This is way too much D-bol. I would change this to wks. 1-4 and take no more than 30mg/day. I think 50mg's is too much.