test prop and tren ace cycle

[topher92503]

Alright everyone, I'm getting ready for my first physique show in march 2015 and start my prep Jan 1. Here's what it looks like and I wanna see what everyone has to say. (Not that it'll really be changing)
Stats: 5'4
170lbs
11% bf
Lifting steady for 5years plus
4th cycle

So heres what the cycle looks like:
Test prop 100mgs hit one day off two days weeks 1-10
Tren ace 50mgs EOD adjust if body can handle it weeks 1-10
Clenbuteral 40mcg daily and uped two weeks after to 60 if needed weeks 3-12
Winny 50mcg daily uped 10mcgs weekly as needed weeks 6-12
Anavar 70mcg daily and uped 10mcg weekly weeks 6-12

Pct:
Nolvadex and hgc

 

[Megatron28]

Test Prop should be injected EOD.

PCT should be Clomid and Nolva. hCG shoud be used during the cycle to minimize testicular atrophy and aid in recovery post cycle. However it should not be used during PCT as it is suppressive to the HPTA.

Do you normally use an AI with your cycles? If not, how high does your estradiol get on the above test protocol?

Have you used all of these compounds before?

That's what I have to say, not that you are going to do anything differently as indicated in your post.

 

[topher92503]

I've used all except for the tren and winny. I've done high test e doses but never needed an ai except for nolva. I'm not susceptible to gyno. Have never checked my estrogen levels while during a cycle so I wouldn't know. The hcg will be used during as needed and the nolva will be for afterwards. I'm cloning another buddy's cycle that competes however I'm adding the hcg during

 

[hiram1st]

You should read the beginner cycle sticky. I dont know how experienced you are with cycling it doesn't sound like your well versed on how to do it safely.

Nolva isn't an AI its a serm

 

[Megatron28]

I've used all except for the tren and winny. I've done high test e doses but never needed an ai except for nolva. I'm not susceptible to gyno. Have never checked my estrogen levels while during a cycle so I wouldn't know. The hcg will be used during as needed and the nolva will be for afterwards. I'm cloning another buddy's cycle that competes however I'm adding the hcg during

Nolva is a SERM, not an AI.


High estradiol does a lot more than just cause Gyno. You should do your homework on this topic. Here is a good place to start.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...agement-gynecomastia-prevention-reversal.html


For the Tren, you should also have a Dopamine Agonist on hand (caber or prami). Pushing rope when you are with that special girl (or guy) is not fun.

What do you mean you will use hCG "as needed"? Does that mean you are going to wait for testicular atrophy and then use it? Prevention is a better method than curing after the fact.

So are you just parroting what your buddy is doing, or do you understand the reasoning behind the choices you are making?

 

[3J]

nevermind... i read differently