Using 125 eod, well ,alpha pharma is 1ml vial so 100mg, so how do i go about it... and got it, nolva taper down.. the dosage is fine???
Test prop/ Clen/ Superdrol Cutting cycle
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Using 125 eod, well ,alpha pharma is 1ml vial so 100mg, so how do i go about it... and got it, nolva taper down.. the dosage is fine???
Roush
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just up you AI if need be if you up your dose from 300 to 500 and keep an eye on diet and you won't bloat. controlling estrogen is key to controlling bloat and water retention.
and on a side note: are you stepping on stage? why are guys so worried about a tiny bit of 'bloat' if they are not stepping on stage.
hahaha, no im not stepping on stage, but still now that im cutting after long time, just want to look good.. is this cycle good??? i'll hve to order my stck
halfwit
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Tee hee, I'm lazy. I like M-W-F because I forget if I pinned the day prior or not. D'oh!
Okay this is new.. i was using a lower dose because of the bloat test carries with it..again using 500 would bloat me..if not then i'll use 500mg test p and clen for 8 weeks.. Something like
Week 1-8 Test P 500 mg (M/W/F) (200/200/100)
Week 1-8 Clen 40/40/60/60/80/80/100/100 (Depends on tolerance)
Week 3-8 Ketotifen 10-20mg
Week 3-8 dex 0.50mg EoD
Wait 2 weeks
PCT
Nolva 20/20/40/40
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Try to keep the doses the same. Going 200/200/100 is going to give quite the roller-coaster ride with hormones, which is where some sides come from. I don't normally recommend it as I detest amps, but you can always buy some sterile multi-use vials and very carefully transfer the amps to the vial for convenience sake.
I've done this before, and it makes things easier as I have a bad habit of crushing amps in my fingers, which doesn't always end well for me. Or, you can just go 600mg/wk to keep things simple.
An AI is very important, and I think this facet has been overlooked in your cycle. Arimidex/aromasin will be what you need. As test goes up, so does estradiol - which is where most problems come from.
I'd just go clen with the test this time around.
Roush
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this goes for me too . every other day ends up missing a day or doing two days in a row . If I have a fixed schedule then pinning short esters is way easier. I go with this in the morning M-W-F , then pin saturday night. thats close enough to eod to keep blood levels stable, and keeps me on a fixed schedule
Tee hee, I'm lazy. I like M-W-F because I forget if I pinned the day prior or not. D'oh!
Try to keep the doses the same. Going 200/200/100 is going to give quite the roller-coaster ride with hormones, which is where some sides come from. I don't normally recommend it as I detest amps, but you can always buy some sterile multi-use vials and very carefully transfer the amps to the vial for convenience sake.
I've done this before, and it makes things easier as I have a bad habit of crushing amps in my fingers, which doesn't always end well for me. Or, you can just go 600mg/wk to keep things simple.
An AI is very important, and I think this facet has been overlooked in your cycle. Arimidex/aromasin will be what you need. As test goes up, so does estradiol - which is where most problems come from.
I'd just go clen with the test this time around.
The reason i was taking 300 was, i dont inject myself, i go to my doc. and he is closed on sundays.. so pinning M/W/F would have been easy.. now i dont mind pinning 500 but i dont think i could find a vial for myself..
And for AI ive added it from week 3-8 @ 0.50mg EoD
And my final cycle is Test P/ Clen for 8 weeks.. im not dding anythig else s stated by you
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
wait 7 days for PCT, not 3. Prop's half life means you'll still have half of it in you after 3 days...and 250mg of test in your body will overwhelm the clomid/nolva.
Rule of thumb: the more steroids you run, and the longer ester, the longer you have to wait.
Big difference in wait times for PCT after test E at 500mg a week vs test e at 1g a week.
Have to wait a good extra week for the extra 500mg (1000mg - 500mg) to clear.
Roush
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aren't you cutting ? Why do you need 1400 mg of test a week for a cut ? You only need enough test to stay anti-catabolic. you'll be in a calorie deficit, all that test is going to go to waste and not towards muscle building (you need to be in a calorie surplus to gain muscle) , its just going to cause sides
Oh no no no.. I meant 100mg eod.. 400mg Per week.. So sorry
halfwit
I like turtles.
Told you I'm lazy, that's too much work.
I used to do that loooooooong ago so I could remember which site I pinned, but now it's just easier to go with set days and doses. Kind of like I used to carry a training logbook, but after a few years, I just started tweaking things on the fly, adding or subtracting things one at a time.
I just like simple I guess.
Wait, you have a doctor that's injecting you for an AAS cycle? I realize you're in a country that is less restrictive, but I'm frankly surprised. Seems quite limiting though; what if he's on vacation for a week? What if the AAS you purchase is contaminated, is he willing to be responsible for administering a shot of a substance that ultimately makes you ill?
You start the AI when you start the cycle. ESPECIALLY with propionate, as it acts rather quickly. Assuming you're running adex (based on the dose), that's probably way too much. I'd start at half that dose, and increase if necessary.
I used to do that loooooooong ago so I could remember which site I pinned, but now it's just easier to go with set days and doses. Kind of like I used to carry a training logbook, but after a few years, I just started tweaking things on the fly, adding or subtracting things one at a time.
I just like simple I guess.
Wait, you have a doctor that's injecting you for an AAS cycle? I realize you're in a country that is less restrictive, but I'm frankly surprised. Seems quite limiting though; what if he's on vacation for a week? What if the AAS you purchase is contaminated, is he willing to be responsible for administering a shot of a substance that ultimately makes you ill?
You start the AI when you start the cycle. ESPECIALLY with propionate, as it acts rather quickly. Assuming you're running adex (based on the dose), that's probably way too much. I'd start at half that dose, and increase if necessary.
Hahahaha.. No I'm not worried about that.. And basically test is available at medical shops.. So my test is pharmacy grade.. So doctors don't hesitate, and if this guy is on vacation, there are tons of other doctors..
I'm running adex maybe I'll start after the day of my first shot.. And it was a tying error from my side I'm going to use either 300-400 MG test prop PER WEEK not EOD.
Onk
1kg = 2.20 lbs
fyi, 100mg EoD is 350mg a week. First week is 400mg, next week is 300mg, averages to 350mg a week.
Roush
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^ no thats not a problem. its just a clarification on the math , showing 100mg Eod is actually 350mg a week , not 400
if your going in to a medical clinic to get your shots , I'd think it would be much much easier to just go in once to twice a week instead of every other day , and just go with Test Cyp instead of test prop. just a thought. a 2ml injection of test cyp once per week is 400mg
if your going in to a medical clinic to get your shots , I'd think it would be much much easier to just go in once to twice a week instead of every other day , and just go with Test Cyp instead of test prop. just a thought. a 2ml injection of test cyp once per week is 400mg
If thats the case, i'll be more than happy to pin only twice a week.. but can i use cyp?? ive read people use prop for cutting.. nd usully prop kicks in like 3-4 days compared to cyp which takes around 12-14 days.. so i'll have to increase the length of my cycle, am i right?
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Roush
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test is test. there is no difference between the 'test' in test cyp and the 'test' in test prop . the only difference is the oil and the time of absorption, test cyp is slower absorbing and requires less frequent pins, test prop is faster absorbing. thats the only difference. results will be the same over the big picture . test prop will be faster acting, but also faster out of your system as well.
you can always front load test prop for the first 2-3 weeks while taking test cyp as well, to get the benefit of the fast acting prop. then stop the prop and just continue with test cyp for the convenience factor.
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