Test Prop for first cycle?

[360]

I know a lot of guys recommend sticking with test e or c for the first run, but I plan on doing a lean bulk with my first cycle and want to keep water retention to a minimum. I think prop will be the better choice for me. It's also important for me to run a shorter cycle with a quick post cycle therapy (pct), which I can do with prop. Can any of you explain how bad the PIP is? I plan using Pinn's prop and I've heard the PIP isn't so bad with theirs. I have a high tolerance for pain, so as long as it's not unbearable I think I'll be ok. My plan is:

Test Prop: 150 mg EOD for 10 wks
Anavar or Tbol: Weeks 6-10 (still unsure of this)
AI on hand: Adex
PCT: Toremifine 120/90/90/60 with Unleashed
Stats: Almost 8 years training, 6', 201 lbs 10% bf 23 y/o

How does this look guys?

 

[fancyhuh101]

pip is enough that say u pin delt mon , u will feel pain for 3 days , depending may not be able to lift with delts for a couple days , being your first cycle as well . it will definetly decrease your mobility with the body part u pin, but its do-able . its gonna feel like a nice bruise for a few days , cycle looks fine , i would still run adex all the way through and not just have it on hand , controlling high estrogen is a big issue , even if u dont have sides , start pct 4-5 days after last pin , good luck

 

[fliedlice]

running prop right now with same dosage. loving it. comes on half as fast for me.
i had some virgin parts that i first pinned with prop and it was motherfucking sore for several days.. when i ran test-e, i virtually felt no soreness throughout cycle. Could depend on the lab too. i'm currently using AML. Couldn't walk properly for 2 days lol. I still like it though. I'm kinda glad i did test-e tho in beginning just to make things nice and simple.
i never tried torem but heard good things about it. i'm gonna run the tried and true, nolva/clomid duo for pct.

good luck

 

[ABNRGR1]

Previous post are spot on for test p pip. You say lean bulk, so I assume you will be doing cardio. I would search injection sites and try to stay away from using the quads. I personally cannot run for 3-4 days after a test p quad inject.

 

[360]

Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'll go with prop. Hopefully the pip won't be too bad and I'll try to rotate injection sites as often as possible. And yes ABNRGR1, I'll be doing cardio, but only twice a week so hopefully pinning quads won't be too much of an issue.

 

[Mike24]

Pain for me is different from person to person I geuss. Since its your first cycle its going to hurt a bit, but usually nothing untolerable. After all don't forget your sticking a needle into your muscle. The more you do it and the farther you will get into your cycle the more you will get used to it. First time I did test prop I was pinning in the delts and lats on rotation. First time hurt more. But after that only pain I would get was the feeling of a little bruise. Good luck!

 

[imdennis]

I know a lot of guys recommend sticking with test e or c for the first run, but I plan on doing a lean bulk with my first cycle and want to keep water retention to a minimum. I think prop will be the better choice for me. It's also important for me to run a shorter cycle with a quick post cycle therapy (pct), which I can do with prop. Can any of you explain how bad the PIP is? I plan using Pinn's prop and I've heard the PIP isn't so bad with theirs. I have a high tolerance for pain, so as long as it's not unbearable I think I'll be ok. My plan is:

Test Prop: 150 mg EOD for 10 wks
Anavar or Tbol: Weeks 6-10 (still unsure of this)
AI on hand: Adex
PCT: Toremifine 120/90/90/60 with Unleashed
Stats: Almost 8 years training, 6', 201 lbs 10% bf 23 y/o

How does this look guys?

would move oral to first few weeks rather then later t help kick start your test but thats just me, dont take Aromatase inhibitor (AI) unless shit starts going south

 

[old&stacked]

Test prop ia the oldest amd forst synthetic test known to man. The probelm that most folls look at is while its easy to controll serum levels it has to be done at a minimum of every 3rd day but recomended to be done every other day. For a first time user because of all the different long ester forms out there lile cyp and eth its highly recomended to use them i stead. Why you ask, because the release of test into your blood stream is more mettered and you only have to worry about weekly pins instead of every couple of days or so. Giving you more time to concentrate and have use of muscles with out pip.

Now if you look at it during the times of Arnold and others of his time test prop was the widy and moat used test out there so you know it works, yet to a begginer it might be not the best choice. I would say follpw the norm if u wiah with either a test cyp or eth and learn to work with the long release esters amd once you have grown accostumed to those, then make a choice preferably ane educated disicion on whether u want to go the test prop rout. Again any test can be used to bulk or cut the part is what would be easier for a first timer.

Good luck

 

[360]

Thanks again for all the help guys. Planning to start early May.

 

[Iron Giant]

Thanks for the replies guys. I guess I'll go with prop. Hopefully the pip won't be too bad and I'll try to rotate injection sites as often as possible. And yes ABNRGR1, I'll be doing cardio, but only twice a week so hopefully pinning quads won't be too much of an issue.

As tempted as you may be...don't pin calf...you won't walk for 3 days (not exaggerating :|)

 

[360]

Yeah, I've heard calves are a bitch. I'm gonna try quads, delts and glutes. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Carnagereport11]

Quads delts glutes are def the way to go here. Ill be doing my first cycle soon with test prop hopefully its not to bad.... Im using performance pharm though so idono

 

[mongosmash]

Prop > enanthate any day except for cruising.