Test /tren e / tbol /var cycle pls help !!! And for god sake reply !!!!!

[hatchy]

howzit goin guys !!

test c 1-12 weeks 500mg
tren e 1-8 weeks 300mg
tbol 1-6 weeks 60mg ed
var 7-13 week 60mg ed

milk tisle 500mg ed
adex .25mg ed through out the cycle

pct nolva / clomid ANY CRITICS OR ADVICE WILL BE APPRECIATED
______________________
stats
187 lbs
20 bf% guessing
5th cycle (1st time to use tren e , i dont wanna use tren a ,not too friendly with pinning)
age 25
3 years lifting

 

[thades]

Cycle looks OK, not great. I realize you dont like pinning but if you dont react well to tren your life is going to SUCK and you'll wish that you only had to deal with a few extra pins a week. So, that's me suggesting ace over enth. I pin ace ED and that helps with the sides even more.

I would also suggest you run your test at the same dose or alittle lower than your tren. Pinning tren ED(which i realize yu dont want to do) and running your tren higher than test will pretty much all but eliminate the unbearable sides of tren...for most people.

This cycle supposed to be a bulk or cut? Guessing at least alittle bit of a cut seeing that you're running tbol and Anavar (var) . If so, then you definitely want to run your tren higher than test.

Also, since you're running tren enth, you should really run it for at least 10 weeks, preferably 12. Running tren for 8 weeks is more for when you run ace. Things will just be starting to get good at the end of 8 weeks with enth.

The tren is going to shut you down hard, and is definitely not going to make recovery easy so it'd be good to throw some Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in during your cycle, or at the very least do an Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast before your pct.

Dont run nolva with a 19-nor(tren) or else you are begging for some bad progesterone issues.

Proposed cycle: (assuming you WONT use ace)
Week 1-14 Test cyp 250-300mg a week
Week 1-12 Tren enth 350mg a week
week 1-6 tbol 60mg ed
week 8-14 Anavar (var) 60mg ed

14 days after last pin of the cyp start an Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast for ten days, pinning 1,000-2,000iu's eod(eod is important and better than ed)

3 days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) pin start PCT

PCT:
Clomid 100/100/50/50

Good luck!

 

[thades]

Forgot to say that you need to have caber/prami on hand just in case you get prolactin sides....although you probably wont having your tren dosed as such. Not sure on the dosing for prami cause i've never used it, nor would i ever suggest anyone use it unless you have no other choice, but the caber should be dosed at .5mg twice a week, can up it to .5mg eod if need(i have to ever time i run a 19-nor)

 

[hatchy]

Tanx for the advice and taking your time for me !! my supplies for tren can go up to 8weeks only and to get hcg is kinda difficult ( i live in the other side of the earth ) but will make a plan , is there any other alternative to skip hcg ...


do i have to end the Anavar (var) with the test or can i stop 2 weeks after the last test pin !!!!

 

[justin h]

Thats along time running orals...If anything I'd up the dose to 75mg tbol for 5 wks. Then run Anavar (var) at wk 10 or 11 to bridge into post cycle therapy (pct). Give your liver alittle 5 wk break. Alot uneccessary stress on the liver here.

 

[thades]

^^^That is alot of orals, but assuming you're healthy i wouldn't say its excessive, especially the Anavar (var) . Anavar (var) definitely takes more time than other orals to show effects.

There is no other alternative to hcg for an "hcg blast" BUT you could run some clomid(i run 50mg eod) during cycle to keep "the boys" alive during your cycle. if you cant get hcg you could also run a slightly more aggressive/longer post cycle therapy (pct). Something like 300mg of clomid the first two days, then 100mg ed for 2 weeks, then 50mg ed for two more weeks, then 25mg ed for another two weeks. AGAIN, sure some people will think this is overkill, but at least for me, i'd WAYYY rather go overboard with my PCT then to skimp and risk losing gains and having long term effects on my health.

 

[DADAWG]

howzit goin guys !!

test c 1-12 weeks 500mg
tren e 1-8 weeks 300mg
tbol 1-6 weeks 60mg ed
var 7-13 week 60mg ed

milk tisle 500mg ed
adex .25mg ed through out the cycle

pct nolva / clomid ANY CRITICS OR ADVICE WILL BE APPRECIATED
______________________
stats
187 lbs
20 bf% guessing
5th cycle (1st time to use tren e , i dont wanna use tren a ,not too friendly with pinning)
age 25
3 years lifting

1st off do NOT run orals for over 6 weeks .

2nd you have ran 4 cycles allready and only weigh 187 at 20% percent bodyfat , steroids cant fix bad diet or training . there is a reason that your that small after 4 cycles and i dont want to hear that hard gainer crap because i wont believe it. get your diet and training right before doing another cycle.

 

[hatchy]

tanx for the input guys !!! really appreciated .. sure mod will check on to it !!\

 

[Avenger87]

1st off do NOT run orals for over 6 weeks .

2nd you have ran 4 cycles allready and only weigh 187 at 20% percent bodyfat , steroids cant fix bad diet or training . there is a reason that your that small after 4 cycles and i dont want to hear that hard gainer crap because i wont believe it. get your diet and training right before doing another cycle.

This a million times.

187 @ 20% body fat. Do you even lift?

 

[donjob]

eh.... nevermind

 

[couch]

Funny how someone can do all the research on esters and the compound they want, but can't figure out how to keep their gains. How does this happen?

 

[thades]

Funny how someone can do all the research on esters and the compound they want, but can't figure out how to keep their gains. How does this happen?

Simple...its called EATT...then EAT MORE! =)