Test/tren/var 3rd cycle (First post)

Very impressed with the amount of knowledge here on various subjects. I'm about to be 28 in less than a couple months 5'11 200 lbs 15-16%BF. I power lifted all throughout high school and college so I know my way around the gym and I train 5 days a week utilizing mostly compound exercises (deads,squats, bench, press, pulls etc...) and as of 6 months ago I made my diet impeccable again. This will be my 3rd cycle(1st in years though) and in the past I've run test only and test/tren with great results.

Here is what i'm thinking for this 14 week cycle:

Test Enan 100mgs /test prop 100mgs eod same pin weeks 1-4 (tapering down prop and increasing E gradually until i'm solely on enanthate)

Test Enan 650 mgs weekly weeks 4-12

Tren Ace 100mgs eod weeks 2-10

Anavar 75-100mgs ed weeks 10-14

Test prop 650 mgs weekly at the end for quicker pct start weeks 12-14

AI:
Exemestane 12.5mgs eod till pct

For prolactin:
Prami starting at .125mg ED and then gradually increasing to .25mg, .375mg, and then .50mg ED weeks 2-10

PCT:
Clomafene Citrate 50mg everyday for 4 weeks

Tamoxifen citrate 40mg every day 2 weeks followed by 20mg everyday for 2 weeks

Thoughts on HCG?

By no means am I an expert on AAS so if something looks fucked up please let me know lol

Thank you gentleman. I really appreciate any input.


-DAN
 
I would simplify things.

Test E 650mg 1-14
Tren A 350mg 1-14
Var 75mg 11-14

Exemestane 12.5mg daily 1-17 (I think you will need more than you listed)
hCG 250iu twice a week 1-17
Prami 1-17

Start PCT in week 17.

I would not mess around with tapering doses and mixing esters in the front and end of the cycle.

Get blood work before cycle. At mid-point cycle. And about 6 weeks after PCT.

P.S. I would also go with Tren E instead for less pinning and it is cheaper.
 
I've ran var several times and from my experience 4 weeks is not long enough at all. If you haven't cycled in well over a year y so high on the test you will respond awesome to half Like 350 with less sides easier to control estrogen so less bloat and useless water weight that you will loose anyways. Haven't ran tren so can't comment on that one but If you've ran tren in the past you know how your body responds to it so I'd run the e version also pin the test and tren together same pin twice a week. If you would rather pin more often y not just stay with prop. And also if you have quality var you will not need that much 40-50mg ed will get you great gains but if you only want to run it for 4 weeks y not just do winny. Good luck
 
Keep it simple all the tapering and switching esters is a little much keep it simple and what are your goals
 
I would simplify things.

Test E 650mg 1-14
Tren A 350mg 1-14
Var 75mg 11-14

Exemestane 12.5mg daily 1-17 (I think you will need more than you listed)
hCG 250iu twice a week 1-17
Prami 1-17

Start PCT in week 17.

I would not mess around with tapering doses and mixing esters in the front and end of the cycle.

Get blood work before cycle. At mid-point cycle. And about 6 weeks after PCT.

P.S. I would also go with Tren E instead for less pinning and it is cheaper.

Thank you for the response.

I should've mentioned that I'm already 1 week in YIKES. should I discontinue the prop next week? Im going to bump the stane up like you said.
 
Keep it simple all the tapering and switching esters is a little much keep it simple and what are your goals

Im a complex man that overthinks everything lol I shouldve just gone with prop for the entire cycle since im running tren ace for the majority of it.

My goals are to gain 20 lbs 30% on strength. With as strict as I am i'll probably blow my goals out of the water.
 
Here is what i'm thinking for this 14 week cycle:

Test Enan 100mgs /test prop 100mgs eod same pin weeks 1-4 (tapering down prop and increasing E gradually until i'm solely on enanthate)

Test Enan 650 mgs weekly weeks 4-12

if your going to front load test e with test p , then DON'T go low dosage on the test E to start off the cycle or taper . start the long ester test e with the amount your going to run the entire length of the cycle.
so make it

650mg test E weekly weeks 1-12
100mg test p eod, weeks 1-4

personally I'd bump the prop up to 150mg eod and push it to 5 weeks
 
if your going to front load test e with test p , then DON'T go low dosage on the test E to start off the cycle or taper . start the long ester test e with the amount your going to run the entire length of the cycle.
so make it

650mg test E weekly weeks 1-12
100mg test p eod, weeks 1-4

personally I'd bump the prop up to 150mg eod and push it to 5 weeks

Oh boy, i'm an idiot and i'm already a week in. i've done 3 pins so far. should i discontinue the prop next week and just bump the enanthate?
 
Oh boy, i'm an idiot and i'm already a week in. i've done 3 pins so far. should i discontinue the prop next week and just bump the enanthate?

no I'd keep going with the test prop EOD ,, but then pick two days a week, like monday and thursday, to pin the test E separately from the prop at say 325 mg per injection. run both side by side for the first 4-5 weeks, then drop the prop and just continue the test E.
make sure your staying on top of your AI , probably .3- .5mg eod of adex
 
no I'd keep going with the test prop EOD ,, but then pick two days a week, like monday and thursday, to pin the test E separately from the prop at say 325 mg per injection. run both side by side for the first 4-5 weeks, then drop the prop and just continue the test E.
make sure your staying on top of your AI , probably .3- .5mg eod of adex

took your advice and i feel great. thank you brotha!
 
I've ran var several times and from my experience 4 weeks is not long enough at all. If you haven't cycled in well over a year y so high on the test you will respond awesome to half Like 350 with less sides easier to control estrogen so less bloat and useless water weight that you will loose anyways. Haven't ran tren so can't comment on that one but If you've ran tren in the past you know how your body responds to it so I'd run the e version also pin the test and tren together same pin twice a week. If you would rather pin more often y not just stay with prop. And also if you have quality var you will not need that much 40-50mg ed will get you great gains but if you only want to run it for 4 weeks y not just do winny. Good luck

thanks for the advice on the var. I might just stretch what i have at 50mgs ed to run it longer like you suggested.
 
Added 3 ius of HGH ed to my cycle...starting to look amazing. Up to 220 today with massive strength gains as well. MY SLEEP IS FUCKING TERRIBLE. I Wake up at least 5x a night sweating and restless.
 
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