testosterone cypionate, need help!!!

[theguy9129]

running cycles will not accomplish what you want which is to feel better. But your numbers are low but are bottom out numbers either and being 18 who knows where you are in puberty. And second I would be sure to have another test done and make sure it is in the morning around 8-9 if your last test was in the late afternoon your numbers could be way lower than they really are. If thats the case it could be a diet, exericise, or sleep issue.

 

[sealevel]

can i stack anything with a natural test booster to get better gains?

Protein, sleep, more protein, more sleep and then some more protein. Eat, eat, eat! Your muscles don't grow in the gym, they grow when sleeping and eating so give them what they need. In your other thread I beat around the bush lightly about your age but since these guys are ripping you a new one I have to agree that you are way too young to take any kind of AAS. Best of luck to you!

 

[pikiki]

My brother your only 18yrs old,if the Doctor check you Test levels and they so low as you said WHY HE DID NOT PRESCRIBE YOU WITH TEST? If I was you I will go to a diffrent Dr and get check out again(second opinion) cause doesn`t make any sense you very low for your age and don`t get any treatment. DON`T do any cycle cause this is a health problem that needs attention first vs gain some muscle mass..

 

[Kyle27]

hey thanks for all the advice! should i take a natural test booster tho? im still a little confused on why not to take the test tho? Im not going to get bitch tits if i do my pct, im not going to lose my hair if i get certain serms or inhibitors, and you talked about my growth plates closing. im 6'3"so i dont really care about growing that much more. and after i get off of this couldnt i "jump start" my body back up with natural test boosters? what would i really have to worry about? im just going to do one cycle that is it, i would do it now and put it down forever. i just need to know some risks, im not seeing this clearly :/

Hey I'll help you out... I'm 6'3 1/2 and my cousin is 6'6... we were the same exact height EXACTLY until at the age of 20 I was an idiot and took prohormones not knowing what they were, just because I wanted to get "big gains" and then the next 3 years he grew taller... trust me an inch or 2 taller would be nice... I've also had puffy nipples since then, sucks... and you have growth plates through out your whole body... it deals with wayyyy more than just height... do your research kid...

"health risks and side effects are much more serious for teens than adults. This is because a teenager's body is not fully developed, therefore their growth can be stunted and parts of the body will never have a chance to mature. The effects on women are even worse since androgens and testosterone are more foreign to their bodies than men's (Collins ). A very serious issue is the fact that teens who use steroids for two to three months face dying in their 30's or 40's."

"Carl Sanders - an exercise and steroid expert said that consuming steroids at a young age could lead to testicular failuar and possibly testicle amputation."

again do your own research on why not to take it at a young age... STOP NOW AND DO NOT TAKE ANOTHER PIN!!!!!!! like I said before "just by your cycle I can tell you haven't done even close to enough research"... 8 weeks is way to short anyways... research read research read, then read some more... look into Natural test boosters, get a second doctors opinion... then ask away... I'm glad you know you're not seeing this clearly... eat tons of food, and protein... don't worry about what the people around you think cause they won't be around you for long and if they are then they are your true friends and don't give a shit if you're getting gains or not... read more...

 

[grizzledsealpoacher]

listen to the advise brother these guys know your walking off a cliff and are trying to stop you. It doesn't make a difference to anyone if you get great results from using aas . It does matter to them if you hurt yourself or at the least mess your body up from misusing gear so they r sending a warning. I didn't listen to the warnings and abused gear anyway I ended up at the doctor suffering from some major sides and pain. I know one major reason I wouldn't use test right now if I were you is there is a chance your nattie test will never come back using it young. So there is a chance you will have to use testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) the rest of your life its not worth it just for that possibility to me . Work hard and finish growing then re visit it down the line

 

[killerkurt45]

thank you guys for all your help, it really means a lot. if i have any more questions i'll be sure to ask you. thanks again!!!

 

[Envious1320]

Your T is low but you are 18. I would try to do everything else possible before going down the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) road at your age. I would also get another blood test done. See if you cant find a doctor in your are who specializes in low T.

 

[theguy9129]

Men can grow until they are like 23-25 and maybe you are still in that phase, but like envious said that should be the last thing. But if your numbers were out of scale say in the 100's then yeah I would opt to do something. But at your age you should have everything checked and get another blood test. And ensure you are sleeping 7-9hours a night, check and see if any other medications you take might be affecting your health. I know a lot of allergy medication can make one feel like crap. Also check your diet, to much soda, sugars, all that stuff.

 

[Smoke84]

Im 18 and i ended up going to the doctor because i am always tired, dont feel agressive enough, and im in the gym working out hard and just dont see any good muscle gains. i had a couple blood test run and my overall testosterone was 374 and my free testosterone was 114. These are on the low end of the scale but my doctor will not prescribe many any testosterone cypionate so i am thinking about taking 400 mg per week for a 8 week cycle. Should i do this, are there any major risks i should be concerned about. i already know about some serms and inhibitors for post cycle therapy (pct). Any response would really help!!!

Hi Killerkirt45,

I can relate to what you are going through. From even before your age, I suffered from the same symptoms. Years later, and after a lot of growing up, I started going to the doctors more often and getting bloodwork done.

Anyways, I have Low-T as well, and am ANXIOUS to start my first cycle, as a test run to see how my body handles it and if I can hopefully kick start the boys down there with some clomid maybe. But before I proceed, I will be getting a full blood panel done, assuming my doctor will do it. Here is what I recommend:

First, go to the doctor, and demand to get all of this checked:
Total Testosterone
Bioavailable Testosterone (AKA "Free and Loosely Bound")
Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)
DHT
Estradiol (specify the Extraction Method, or "sensitive" assay for males)
LH
FSH
Prolactin
Cortisol
Thyroid Panel
CBC
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Lipid Profile
PSA (if over 40)
IGF-1 (if HGH therapy is being considered)

You need to first know whether your issue is secondary or primary hypogonadism. You can't really tell for sure without bloodwork. Do this immediately, and after that, *this is important, get in the habit* ask for photocopies and then post your results on here. Once people know what your values are, we can all start getting a better idea of what's going on. Someone above mentioned seeing an endocrinologist, but don't hold your breath. Most endo's, from what I hear, are useless, and as a matter of fact, last week, I saw the first endo ever, and the guy was a complete idiot. He tried to prescribe me viagra and even claimed my levels, which are very similar to yours I'm thinking, were 'Normal'. Anyways, not seeing him again. Got gear ready to go, but I want to hold off for at least a few more weeks and get me some bloodwork just to make sure I know what's what. Research is very important as you don't want to be going in blind messing with your hormones, especially at your age when you're still uncertain of everything.

Keep us posted! Good luck!

 

[killerkurt45]

Thanks for helping me I am going to listen to you guys and not do any test. i may be working out too much to grow. I workout 6 days a week hitting each bodypart twice, is that too much to get big.

 

[DoYouEvenLift92]

growth plates closing from using juice at a young age is only peoples opinion there has not actually been any hard evidence stating that this will happen

 

[2rude4u]

Im 18 and i ended up going to the doctor because i am always tired, dont feel agressive enough, and im in the gym working out hard and just dont see any good muscle gains. i had a couple blood test ran and my overall testosterone was 374 and my free testosterone was 114. These are on the low end of the scale but my doctor will not prescribe many any testosterone cypionate so i am thinking about taking 400 mg per week for a 8 week cycle on my own. Should i do this, are there any major risks i should be concerned about. i already know about some serms and inhibitors for post cycle therapy (pct). Any response would really help!!!

Have you had your estro levels checked? Sometimes younger guys have higher estro levels, that decrease as you develop. Higher estro lowers test.

You may also have a variety of minor issues that can be easily corrected with proper treatment, rather than possibly screwing yourself up for life. I would have estro checked and if not high, see a urologist for an evaluation of the boys.