Testosterone-E or C/Trenbolone-A/Deca (14 weeks)

[whiplash]

Info Please tell me what you think.
I worked out for years i did a 12 week cycle of deca 200 last year. I know i shouldn't ran it alone but at the time its what i had. Great gains no problems during at the end got deca dick for a month but vitrix keep me in the game for friday nights. Im thinkin on this cycle , if the order of the first 3 are wrong some shoot some info.

Week 1-10 Test-E 250mg a week
Week 3-12 Tren-A 100mg a week
Week 5-14 Deca 250mg a week
Week 10-17 Nolvadex 20mg a day
Week 16-17 Clomid 100mg a day

I might do 10mg a day of the Nolvadex during the entire cycle until week 10 where i will bump it up to 20mg. Not to sure

If my Clomid is wrong someone tell, cause read this and a different one was 3 weeks startin at 300mg workin my way down.

Will keep posted with measurements when gear gets here.

 

[juced_porkchop]

no tren on second cycle man.

 

[juced_porkchop]

your pct is all fuked too.

 

[juced_porkchop]

tren and deca together to top it off might not bee good idea

 

[whiplash]

ok well then i will just drop the tren. what do you think on the pct?

 

[Truushot]

Info Please tell me what you think.
I worked out for years i did a 12 week cycle of deca 200 last year. I know i shouldn't ran it alone but at the time its what i had. Great gains no problems during at the end got deca dick for a month but vitrix keep me in the game for friday nights. Im thinkin on this cycle , if the order of the first 3 are wrong some shoot some info.

Week 1-10 Test-E 250mg a week
Week 3-12 Tren-A 100mg a week
Week 5-14 Deca 250mg a week
Week 10-17 Nolvadex 20mg a day
Week 16-17 Clomid 100mg a day

I might do 10mg a day of the Nolvadex during the entire cycle until week 10 where i will bump it up to 20mg. Not to sure

If my Clomid is wrong someone tell, cause read this and a different one was 3 weeks startin at 300mg workin my way down.

Will keep posted with measurements when gear gets here.

Alright man first let me say this is just my opinion and experience from many cycles. I will try hard to give you a better response than no tren on your second cycle and your pct is fuked.

If I was going to design your cycle I would do it like this. I would remind you that test needs to be run in all cycles the entire time for most people. I would also tell you that if you are going to run a long estered test I would run it a minimum of 12 weeks and prefer to run it 14. So lets start there.

I would do this:

Test E/C 750mg/w weeks 1-11
Test P 300mg/w weeks 1-3
Deca 400 mg/w weeks 1-10
Tren Ace 400 mg/w weeks 7-13
Test P 500 mg/w weeks 12-14
Letro weeks 1-14 .25mg/d or eod

PCT for me would be:
Tamox 40mg/40mg/30/mg/20/mg
letro .25mg e3d through first 2 weeks of pct

Lets look at the cycle I just put together for you. We have a long estered test through most of it but we are using prop to bridge us from the start and the end. This will make PCT easier (or it has for me) as you can start your pct 3 days after your last pin of prop. I like to use tamox for my pct as clomid makes me kinda crazy but to each his own. I also run just a touch of letro on my pct to stop the estro rebound and I find it works fine for ME. As you can see it is a very low low dose.

This has worked for me in the past but it might be too tough for you depending on how you handle juice. Also remember this is a bad ass cycle that should not be taken lightly. As far as the no tren on your 2nd cycle I kinda agree but you can do what you want. Remember that tren is the best and it is like popping your cherry too early and you may only love it and it only forever. Also it is short estered so you can stop quick if the sides suck or you don't like it.

You can tinker with the numbers a bit like take the tren to 300 or the deca to 300 or the test to 400/500 depending on what your goals are. I know nothing about you and am not saying this is the perfect cycle for you. I just feel the mechanics of the cycle are better than what you are putting together based on time and results.

I hope this helps and good luck. Remember that after something like this it is a good idea to jump off and stay off for at least 2-3 months so you can get your natural body HTPA axis working again. You woll go through some pretty large shut down on this if you don't PCT right.

Later.

 

[drewbolic]

Test E/C 750mg/w weeks 1-11
Test P 300mg/w weeks 1-3
Deca 400 mg/w weeks 1-10
Tren Ace 400 mg/w weeks 7-13
Test P 500 mg/w weeks 12-14
Letro weeks 1-14 .25mg/d or eod

PCT for me would be:
Tamox 40mg/40mg/30/mg/20/mg
letro .25mg e3d through first 2 weeks of pct


that looks good to me

 

[whiplash]

Thanks for the info and an acutal response. That cycle looks great but I don't think im ready for all the that. Plus the job i have i can't make it noticeable the size im gaining. Maybe i should just do test and deca cycle only for 12. What you think any suggestions?

 

[glubgawd]

1-6 Dbol 30-50mgs ED
1-12 Deca 350-400 per week
1-13/14 Test E or C 500mg per week

That's what I would suggest. It's a solid bulk cycle. Throw some HCG in there and you're solid.

Save the huge amounts of gear for when your gains slow down on this type of cycle. Most people who use that much gear don't really need to. More gear does not always mean more gains.

Good luck man. And enjoy. I love deca!

 

[barrysanders]

Personally, I would go like this.

Weeks 1-14 TEST 500mg (split)
Weeks 1-10 Deca 400mg
Weeks 1-4 Oral
HCG thoughout cycle

I'd drop the Tren and run it solo with a TEST cycle (next cycle?)

I would have these at minimum at hand: Clomid, Aromasin, & Prami.
*Also, for now on I take GHRP-6 with my cycles to help increase my appetite during bulks (its cheap).

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

the suggested cycles look fine. things i do not care for about them is no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), especially with 19-nors. that is a must IMO.

Also i dont see the need for tren on 2nd cycle. I also dont see the need for a high dose of deca if you decide on the tren. maybe 200mg of deca if you run tren just to lube the joints.

lastly i would never run deca for only 10 weeks, it does not even peak for me til week 8.

due to the circumstances and experience level I have to go with Glub's cycle +HCG. although i like deca at 500mg.

 

[Truushot]

I agree totally with you det about the cycle and advise. I posted on there that the cycle I designed for him was kind of a "template" that could be tinkered with.

Most of the time I subscribe to the people are going to do what people are going to do theory so I realize I may or may not influence them. I just wanted to show him how a cycle could be thought out and figured out so there was no confusion.

Tren second cycle is probably not needed, deca for 12 weeks is usually good for me. I love tren more than most things in the world so I am so biased to the stuff it is like weird.

I appreciate the feedback though. As far as the d-bol goes I hate the stuff with a passion. Makes me look like a tick and I lose it as fast as I gain it.

My cycle right now is this:

Test prop 600 mg/w 1-15
deca- 400mg/w 1-12
letro
tamox post cycle therapy (pct).

I usually keep it pretty simple. I hate long estered test by the way. Prop for president!