Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) Suggestions Please

[TryinToGetStrong]

TRT Suggestions Please

To start I am not certain on doing this yet since I am only 24.

But my doc is willing to put me on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) but he isn't an Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) or testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) specialist so can I get some opinions?

Now before you sway me to go seek a Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT) specialist or urologist, I go to the VA and do not have insurance so I cannot afford to go to any specialist at this time as I know it will be expensive.

He wants to start with injections 200mg per month I know from cycling, this isn't very much and not only is this low but the half life of Test E and C are half of that. So after that doesn't work he said he goes to 200mg every two weeks which is obviously going to be better but what kind of results am I to expect from 200 every two weeks?

Should it put me in the normal range that I am supposed to be at, will I be above normal, or below normal still.

Again I know results vary and are patient specific but what should 200mg every 2 weeks do at best or usually.

I am currently waiting for copies of my 2 blood draws so I can post them up if that will help, I know the first test came back at 190 and next slightly higher but I am not sure on all of the other numbers.

 

[Frustrated1]

at 1 month test will be about 13mg or so in your system. At 2 weeks a little over 50mg.

The best blood level anybody can achive is 1000 per 100cc/week, so expect much less than that. At least your Dr is willing to work with you. FYI it will be Test Cyp that you get, which has a half life of ~8 days

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Really? Do docs not use E cause he mentioned both E and C.

Good to know on the 8 day half life cause I was thinking it was more.

Yeah he seemed pretty cool about working with it to get levels right if I choose to do it.

So my best bet is to try and get to 100mg per week minimum then?

 

[Tide14]

Test E and C are almost the same. Slightly different 1/2 life. 200 mg Of Test C E5D puts me around 950 total test but EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. I would push for 100 mg/week at least instead of 200mg/2 weeks since your levels will be more stable. When he retests your levels have them taken your shot day before taking your shot. GET YOUR estrogen levels tested as well and although you probably won't be successful I would push for HCG. You may want to have kids someday.

That being said I would exhaust other options at your age before going on TRT.

 

[cashout]

First, at 24, I strongly consider a full effort at a restart.

You'll accomplish a couple of things by doing this.

First, with a full restart using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), SERMs, and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), you will be able to identify which part(s) of the HPTA are not fully functional. That alone will help you and your MD decide on the most appropriate course of action for the future.

Second, and in the event that a restart is successful in stimulating your HPTA you'll avoid HRT. At your age that would be the best possible outcome.

As far as the options you mentioned, 200 mg a month or 200 mg every two weeks are in my opinion, not solid options. As other have indicated, a weekly application of 100mg would be a good starting point. The levels you achieve on that dosage will likely put you in the "normal" range but everyone is different so you will need to use blood tests to really determine where you need to be and subsequently feel your best.

Finally, at your age, assuming that you intend to raise a family in the future, you will want to include Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in you protocol as well as an AI.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Ok I have read some about the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), SERMs, and Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but are you saying I should do these alone just go get em and try a restart cycle?

Is there a SERM and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in particular you recommend? After both of my cycles I ran clomid alone 50/50/50/50.

Do you have a recommended restart cycle and amount I should take?

I agree I would like to try these things before I go to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) because like you guys both said I may want to have kids.

So any more input on this and I would be highly appreciative of it cashout.

Also I have an MRI scheduled for my head so he can look at my pituitary to hopefully rule out any problems there, and a semen analysis so we can see where I am with that but my wife and I just found out she is pregnant so that is a good start.

 

[cashout]

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Ok I have read some about the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), SERMs, and Aromatase inhibitor (AI), but are you saying I should do these alone just go get em and try a restart cycle?

Is there a SERM and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in particular you recommend? After both of my cycles I ran clomid alone 50/50/50/50.

Do you have a recommended restart cycle and amount I should take?

I agree I would like to try these things before I go to TRT because like you guys both said I may want to have kids.

So any more input on this and I would be highly appreciative of it cashout.

Also I have an MRI scheduled for my head so he can look at my pituitary to hopefully rule out any problems there, and a semen analysis so we can see where I am with that but my wife and I just found out she is pregnant so that is a good start.

 

[TryinToGetStrong]

Awesome bro thanks for all your help.